Whoah, easy there big fella! I was taking a fairly softly softly approach but hey, why bother, right stg58fall? LOL! Like I said, it seems to me to be a cost-benefit situation. If the benefits of being able to fend off a hypothetical foreign invasion or government power grab seem to you to outweigh the costs of very real, all-too-regular massacres, that's your call to make. I have no intention of crossing the world's biggest ocean and trying to "take away your freedoms". I''ll be right here in my foolish country, drooling over my welfare cheque and muttering "my preciousss".