[natehale1971]

Nate, your post appears to me to contain some fairly partisan political views. Then again, maybe I'm not reading it correctly.

Read it as you would like... because from your responses, it's obvious you've taken it as an insult instead of looking at the past two decades and more of the incidents of politically motivated violence here in the United States.

I have stated facts, not a partisan attack nor colored my coverage of said actions.

I'm glad to hear that many far right organisations in the US are actually just touchy-feely groups of civic-minded veterans and senior citizens whose main concern is keeping their protest spaces clean. Oh, but not the African-American or Islamic groups. They're the bad ones. Is that about right?

Let's see... where to start.

I was making a comment about how the New Black Panthern Party and the Nation of Islam (a group that I might add has been all but disowned by the majority of Muslims whom see it as a CULT due to the tenants of it's faith) are classified by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as being RIGHT-Wing Hate groups. Nothing about the fact they were black or muslims. YOU took it that way and compeltely didn't read the message stating this simple fact.

I said NOTHING about singling out anyone by their faith or skin color... just that those two groups are motivated by an ideology that does not come anywhere near 'Right-Wing' in nature or action, nor do they come out as 'left-wing' for that matter either.


And here I was thinking that rapists cause rapes, but you're saying that the Occupy movement is responsible for rapes too? I've read a number of articles about rapes that have occurred at Occupy protests. I've also read about rapes occurring at large gatherings of people of all kinds. As far as I know the Occupy movement as a whole is against sexual assault (I do understand though that the Occupy movement has tried to distance itself from rapes that have occurred at its protests and that is a pretty crappy tactic).

The Occupy Movement went out of their way to cover this up... am I blaming the Occupiers for the rapes? No, I'm calling out the fact that the rapes happened, and the organizers went out of their way to keep the police from being informed and involved. Ditto for the anit-Semitic assaults being done by their members.

I had a friend who was part of the Occupy Wall Street movement that was forced out by the Black Block whom has taken it over. He was one of the ones who contacted the police about the rapes and the assaults that happened.

But he was ostraciszed by this action. And the fact he felt that setting up a 'rape-free-zone' was just insulting.. and creating their own little 'security force' to deal with these violations of decency and civil liberties was also horribly wrong.



The cases of bomb plots seem to involve anarchist groups that have aligned themselves with the Occupy movement. I have strong doubts that the mainstream Occupy movement condones terrorist attacks. Perhaps I need to do more research on this.

The majority of the Occupy Movement is not the problem, it's the steering organization known as the Black Block has taken the reigns of the Occupy Movement that is the problem.

The bombers whom wanted to blow up the bridges were key members of the Occupy Movement whom had been on the organzing committe that brought it to their home cities.

And there has been other acts of violence that I didn't even mention since i consider the ancharo-socialists whom protest the G8 meetings that routinely do so much property damage that most cities are doing everything they can to keep from being selected for it's meetings due to the outright violence that rarely gets reported about just how violent the mobs get that should be classified as a riot. but due to politics is never called as such.

History has shown that the majority of acutal Right-Wing Groups here in the United States aren't violent. And it's groups like the Neo-Nazis and Ayran Nation whom are labeled as 'Far Right' by groups like the Southern Proverty Law Centre that are violent. And those guys aren't really right-wing, since their political ideology is that of hate and subjucation... and can not be classified as either a Right nor Left-Wing political ideolgoy no matter how much the Southern Poverty Law Centre wants to...

Just like the New Black Panther Party and the Nation of Islam, these Neo-Nazi/Aryan Nation groups are motivated by something other than the conventional Political ideological thought... or even any religious theological ideology, as we know or reconize them.

They are instead motivated from concepts of Racial Purity and division of citizens by the color of their skin. Blinded by their hate of someone whom is different than they are. It's just that simple.

Targan, if you are serious about doing the research, please drop me an email and i'll happily send you to some of the links to several websites that has been monitoring these kinds of hate groups.

Epsecially now that the New Black Panther Party has become increasingly millitant and calling for the ethnic cleansing of inner cities... and how the Nation of Islam leader has been making statements that they should get the New Black Panther Party to become a paramilitary 'police force' to provide security for exclusive communities that would be establiehd by the Nation of Islam.

I know quite a bit about these groups, because it's something that I spent alot of time reading about... because I had been working towards writing a thesis paper when i was in college so that when I went for a degree in the Social Sciences when i transfered to a four year college.

Heck, the majority of what i've mentioned here comes from open source news agencies that can easliy be found on the internet. And in many cases these statements about killing 'Cracker babies' and preparing for a race war comes from videos right off these groups own websites/newsfeeds.

Sorry to have hijacked the thread, but Targan took what i was saying totally out of left-field and made it seem as if I am a partisan racist. And the truth is that I am the furthest from either of those categories.