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Originally Posted by ZombieLenin
Yeah, a Marxist government in the Republic of Ireland is unbelievable; the Marxists in this story are Northern Ireland Republicans, like the Real IRA and the Continuity IRA. These organizations, along with the "original" (in terms of 1969-1997) IRA have been, and still are as I understand them, in name "Marxist." Meaning only that they use Marxism and "Revolutionary Socialism" as part of the ideological justification for their rebellion.
In my time line, these would be only loosely allied with the Irish Defense Forces, similar to Communist and Nationalist Chinese forces during WWII.
And as I have it Irish get in the European war only when it seems that the United States will not be involved. This is when they're reinforced by Russia and before total nuclear war.
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I suepct the best model for a post apoc conflict in Ireland is probably something that follows what happened in the Balkans in the 90's. If you look at the Nationalist and Loyalist sides you essentially have similar participants with similar rationales - both have numbers of affiliated paramilitary terrorist groups who may or may not form alliances with regular forces (I could easily see a situation where regular forces on both sides are split, with some treating terrorist groups as allies (perhaps not overtly) and others regarding them as marauders who should be hunted down). Where I think the scenario you've outlined starts to drift away from what is plausible is the introduction of a Russian force...it just strikes me as too unlikely. Also, I suspect the US would, officially at least, not wish to choose sides in a fight between the UK and the Republic of Ireland, although you may find US personnel fighting on both sides unofficially .
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Originally Posted by ZombieLenin
This is a great idea, and one I was using for "Ireland." Most of the Americans will have served in Iran, and what's present at the beginning of the game is a lose allied mixed command including Brits, Canadians, Americans, and some French.
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Would suggest the easiest thing might be to have a plane come out of Iran as things start to really fall apart...(A C130 would struggle for the range without refuelling, but I think an IL76 or a C141 would make the UK or Ireland comfortably). You would have a wide latitude as to who could be on it...British, American, Canadians, ANZACs, a couple of Iranians who have joined them, a Mossad agent they encountered in Iran, Russians who have changed sides, etc, pretty much anyone that had a valid reason for being in the Gulf. When they get to their destination just have everyone on board that you don't want / need head for the hills, keeping the core group of PC's / NPC's. Could always throw in a plot macguffin of someone / something important being on the plane that needs to get to somewhere else, maybe the US, but you've used the last of your aviation fuel getting as far as you have...
So if you stick with Ireland you've just landed at Dublin airport in the middle of a nasty sectarian conflict, with little chance of finding fuel for your IL76 (or someone has just blown a rather large hole in one of the wings), the place is full of armed gangs and you have no idea who the good guys are and who the bag guys are (or, indeed, if there are any good guys)...good luck, you're on your own...