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Old 07-21-2014, 08:49 AM
Olefin Olefin is offline
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Originally Posted by Raellus View Post
Olefin, what do you suggest we do? And please be more specific than "stand up to Putin". Would you be willing to spark a war with Russia to resolve the situation in East Ukraine?
Answer: Yes i would be willing threaten to spark a war with Russia if possible to stop a much bigger war later on.

Our allies and friends have to know that the US will be willing to stand up for them as we said we would. Thats why Hitler got away with what he did - because in the end the French and British were paper tigers and let him build up and conquer to where he couldnt be stopped short of a general war.

And consider the fact that the Russians havent been brainwashed completely into a cult following like the North Koreans have - given the US standing up and saying enough is enough and be willign to back it up I highly doubt that the Russians will jump into a war to defend the right to shoot down civilian airliners because Putin's ego would be bruised otherwise.

For all his bluster and BS he isnt Stalin and the Russian military knows damn well what would happen if they went to war with the US. I dont see them ready to committ suicide for Donetsk.

We signed an agreement with the Ukraine where they gave up their nukes in exchange for promises from the US to prevent exactly what is going on with the Russians now. And I doubt the MRE's we have delivered have done much in the way of honoring that agreement

Oh and there are lots of ways the US could make Putin's life a living hell short of war - like arming the Ukranians, training their troops, all out economic warfare with the Russians, moving US forces into Poland and the Baltics and Slovakia that are bigger than the speed bump battalions that are there now, putting the missile shield into Poland and Czech Republic, stationing Aegis ships in the Baltic and Black Sea permanently, etc..
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