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Originally Posted by aspqrz

You seem hell bent on telling me that I said things that I most patently did not say.

Well you said "decades of Soviet lies and misinformation is gradually being chipped away at by people like Glantz"

Originally Posted by aspqrz

I mentioned nothing about whether the Germans lied about their experiences on the Eastern Front at all, ever, anywhere.

But the Germans were fighting the Soviets so they might be better placed to judge whether the Soviets were spinning lies.

Originally Posted by aspqrz

As for the Soviets lying. Have you read Glantz and other, less well known, post-89 historians of the Eastern Front?

I like to read but I also like to analyse what I read and reach my own conclusion.

Originally Posted by aspqrz

Did the Soviets dissembled, obfuscate, mislead, misdirect, fabricate and outright lie about much of what actually happened on the Eastern Front and in Russia during the war?

Hell yes.

So what were the Soviet lies? Were they deceiving everyone about the size of the forces involved in the campaigns on the Eastern Front, their war production figures, their dependency on Lend Lease or their casualty rates?

Originally Posted by aspqrz

Um. That the U-Boats, overall, weren't sinking enough tonnage to exceed the build/repair rate? Or not until the US entered and insisted that Convoys weren't necessary? And that even the US were eventually forced to realise that they actually were? And that thereafter the losses dropped back way below dangerous levels?

Yep. That would cover it.

And which year are we talking about and does this relate to what actually hapended or some hypothetical scenario about the Commonwealth.

If we are talking about what actually happened then.....


Commonwealth ship building
1940: 880,000 tons
1941: 1,276,500 tons
1942: 1,990,800 tons
1943: 1,136,804 tons
1944: 2,139,600 tons
1945: 535,400 tons

Allied Shipping losses in Atlantic
1940: 3,654,500 tons
1941: 3,295,900 tons
1942: 6,150,340 tons
1943: 2,170,400 tons
1944: 505,700 tons
1945: 366,800 tons

So its a good job the Americans were building so many ships.