[Olefin]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

Gateway to the Spanish Main: SSN Corpus Christian
Last sub series: SSN-705 City of Corpus Christi

Similar names granted, but definitely different.


Nothing to say that didn't get hit. Remember the strike list(s) only detail warheads of 0.5 MT or greater with only a few specific exceptions. Note also the last scout was launched in 1994 and the design retired. It also had a very small payload.


First point, with it's relative proximity to the US, and the previously established targeting of important facilities in neutral countries, do you really think this wouldn't have been hit by the Soviets?
Secondly, even if it did survive, the French are militantly neutral and not sharing anything with either side. They're not going to be launching anything for anyone (even if they retain the capability during the course of the war, which is doubtful), and they're also not going to be allowing anyone to use what little they've got already up.
Also, not only Soviet and US satellites are going to be targeted and taken out. Anything in orbit it likely to be attacked, if not by a direct strike, then by shrapnel from previous attacks. While attacks are ongoing, and until it can be deemed relatively safe, nobody's going to risk sending anything up. It's not like putting up a cheap weather balloon - these things are EXPENSIVE!!!


The Japanese aren't launching anything for the same reasons as the French. Also, during and post war (for a few years at least) they're not likely to have the raw materials and other resources to do it anyway - there's a reason why the Japanese expanded into the rest of Asia and the Pacific in the 1930's and early 40's. They just don't have many natural sources of raw materials at home.
Even if Japan hasn't been nuked (and why would the Soviets and North Koreans ignore all those US targets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ent_facilities), they've still got a huge (for the land size) population to try and feed. Starvation, rioting, etc would be a real problem, effectively stopping attempts at launching anything.

I wont argue much on the sub but again it shows a classic example of how GDW guys may have not been talking to each other to coordinate their stories - because the sub in question sank the Cuban ship in late 2000 - which according to Last Submarine there werent any US subs left to sink that ship by 2000 - remember they grabbed the supposedly last sub a long time before that

As I have said in another thread that was one reason my GM had the sub from the Last Submarine still in US hands but with a non-functional fire system (meaning its basically useless) and the UBF having her sister sub that was mentioned as having disappeared on her last cruise - made more sense as to how the two modules interacted - but thats a different argument entirely

I would think that given how much information there is on Maryland and Virginia in the modules and Challenge that a nuclear attack on Wallops would have been mentioned for sure - the authors detailed every other US launch site as well as the Soviet ones being taken out - so leaving out the French one and Wallops may have been intentional as was Kagoshima - i.e. great material for future stories on sending out characters to retrieve technology

as for the French launching anything - if anyone still has the ability to build satellites its them - and again we aren't talking state of the art here - the tech to build the satellites of the 1960's and 70's would still be available to them - and considering they are one of the few nations that still have forces deployed worldwide they would need functional communication satellites if only one or two