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Originally Posted by Olefin
Keep in mind a few things about the Dutch in the Antilles
The Marines aren't based just at Curacao - they are on Aruba as well and do exercises all the time on the other islands
Also most likely they aren't going to sit in their barracks right next to the refinery as they see other refineries go up in nuclear fireballs - so most likely any attack on the refinery is going to hit with them dispersed either to the other islands or to the airfield in the north of the island which is outside any potential nuke radius of what the Russians were using typically to take out refineries
also not every refinery was hit by nukes - as the canon says nuclear or conventional attack - having it taken out earlier in the war by conventional cruise missiles from a sub or a Spetsnaz operation out of Cuba is also a big possibility
I would think that the Dutch and French getting into conflict in 1998 would definitely be part of the war in the Caribbean and could explain why the pirates in 2000 were thinking the ships they were building in Grenada would be so effective - i.e. possibly the French and Dutch naval ships were taken out in fighting between themselves leaving nothing but small patrol craft at most
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A here comes what i created for my own universe in handy, it would fit as far as i know what forces the Netherlands had in the Caribbean.
Netherlands Forces in the Caribbean in 1997
The Commander Netherlands Forces in the Caribbean (Dutch: Commandement der Zeemacht in het Caribisch Gebied, COMNLCARIB) is responsible for the activities of all forces in the Caribbean who operate from four bases (3 bases on Curaçao and 1 on Aruba).
The service branches, militias and volunteer corpses who operated in the Caribbean are:
The Royal Netherlands Navy (Dutch: Koninklijke Marine).
The 3 Amphibious Combat Group (Dutch: Derde Amfibische Gevechtsgroep, 3AGGP) of the Netherlands Marine Corps (Dutch: Korps Mariniers) which consist of the 31st, 32nd and 33rd infantry companies.
The Netherlands Naval Aviation Service (Dutch: Marine-Luchtvaartdienst, MLD).
The Royal Netherlands Air Force (Dutch: Koninklijke Luchtmacht, KLu).
The Royal Netherlands Marechaussee (Dutch: Koninklijke Marechaussee, KMar), military police.
Netherlands Antilles and Aruba Coastguard (Dutch: kustwacht voor de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba, NA&A CG) (1).
The Antillean Militia (Dutch: Antilliaanse Militie, ANTMIL) which consist of three platoons (2).
The Aruban Militia (Dutch: Arubaanse Militie, ARUMIL) and the Curaçao Militia (Dutch: Curaçao Militie, CURMIL) which consist of one platoon each (3).
The Volunteer Corps Netherlands Antilles (Dutch: Vrijwilligers Korps Nederlandse Antillen, VKNA) is made up of three volunteer corpses namely the Volunteer Corps Aruba (Dutch: Vrijwilligers Korps Aruba, VKA), Volunteer Corps Curaçao (Dutch: Vrijwilligers Korps Curaçao, VKC) and the Volunteer Corps St. Maarten (Dutch: Vrijwilligers Korps St. Maarten).
Bases and deployments of Netherlands Forces in the Caribbean
Curacao: Parera Naval Base
Parera Naval Base, the main naval base for the Royal Netherlands Navy and headquarters of the Commander Netherlands Forces in the Caribbean where the station ship (Karel Doorman (M) class multi-purpose frigate) HNLMS Van Amstel, one permanent support ship HNLMS Pelikaan (4), six Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats and two P-class patrol boats (5) operated from.
Curacao: Marine Barracks Suffisant
Marine Barracks Suffisant (6), the main marine base which house the 31st and 32nd Infantry Company (7) of the 3 Amphibious Combat Group (8), a detachment of the Antillean Militia (Dutch: Antilliaanse Militie, ANTMIL) which is made up of a small training cadre and one infantry platoon, the Curaçao Militia and the Vrijwilligers Korps Curaçao (VKC) which is made up of some 120 volunteers.
Curaçao: Hato Airfield
Hato Airfield, the main military airfield with two Fokker F-27-M transport aircraft and two P3C-Orions.
Aruba: Savaneta Marine Barracks
Marine Barracks Savaneta (Dutch: Marinierskazerne Suffisant, MSKSUF) houses the 33rd infantry company of the 3 Amphibious Combat Group who also serves as a military education and training unit for the Antillean Militia which is made up of a training cadre and two infantry platoons, Volunteer Corps Aruba (Dutch: Vrijwilligers Korps Aruba, VKA) which is made up of some 100 volunteers and the Aruban Militia.
Sint Maarten
The Volunteer Corps St. Maarten (Dutch: Vrijwilligers Korps St. Maarten) which is made up of some 120 volunteers.
The Royal Netherlands Marechaussee has some 20 personal on the island of Sint Maarten to assist the local police.
Notes
(1) The Netherlands Antilles and Aruba Coastguard has approximately 160 personnel. Of these, 140 come from the Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten and 20 from the Royal Netherlands Navy. These 160 consist mostly of personnel actually deployed to carry out operations and the occupation of the Coast Guard bases located on Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten.
(2) The Antillean Militia consist of local conscript personnel and a small volunteer cadre numbering some 148 who form three infantry platoons. The Antillean Militia is trained, clothed and equipped by the Marine Corps as (conscript) marines. When mobilized the Antillean Militia will be made up of eight company-sized security detachments each with company strength of 148 men (totaling some 1,184 men) who would be commanded by Netherlands Marine Corps officers and sub-officers.
(3) The Aruban Militia and the Curaçao Militia are unlike the Antillean Militia made up of professional soldiers and have their own officers.
(4) HNLMS Pelikaan (A801) can carry 3 trucks, 6 land cruisers, 2 water trucks, 27 pallets of goods and equipment and a total of 40 marines.
(5) There are four P-class patrol boats who are operated by the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba Coastguard (NA&A CG). Two operate out of Curacao, one from Aruba and one patrol boat from Sint Maarten. Named P 1, P 2,P 3 and P 4 they have a displacement of 35 tons fully loaded, a speed of 18 and a complement of 6.
(6) Officially known as Detachment of Navy Base Parera, known until 1978 as Marine Barracks Suffisant (Dutch: Marinierskazerne Suffisant, MSKSUF).
(7) One company consist of a company staff, three infantry platoons, a combat support group and a service support group.
(8) Whit the outbreak of the Sino-Soviet War in 1995 the Royal Netherlands Marine Corps had station in the Caribbean the 21st Infantry Company stationed at Naval Base Parera (twenty-four men) and the 22nd Infantry Company stationed at Marine Barracks Savaneta (twenty-five men) part of the 2 Amphibious Combat Group (Dutch: Tweede Amfibische Gevechtsgroep, 2AGGP). When in July 1996 the Netherlands began to mobilize in responds due the West German Bundeswehr crossing the inter-German border into East Germany the two companies where redeployed back to the Netherlands. The two companies where replaced by the 3 Amphibious Combat Group (Dutch: Derde Amfibische Gevechtsgroep, 3AGGP).