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Originally Posted by Olefin
Leg, I got my data from the French Defense Dept site - which is in French by the way and you need to google translate it - the English version of the site has no info on it that is useable.
Here for instance is the address for the 6th Light Armored Brigade
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/terre/pre...legere-blindee
To be clear Leg and James - what is on that site is the actual serving manpower and equipment, not a TOE or projected strength, but the actual number of men and women who are physically part of those units, including where they have been posted in the past. So your argument Leg doesnt hold up in this case, the site is very specific about how many men and in most cases tanks or armored fighting vehicles are physically in reality in the units themselves (i.e. living breathing servicemen and women, not what could be there but what is there), not a projection or TOE statement that is not the real strength.
thus you can see clearly the errror in the RDF module about when the French arrived in Djibouti - they didnt show up in 1995, they were there all along and have been since 1962! |
Maybe we should treat this as when French reinforcements arrived?
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Originally Posted by Olefin
James if you look at the information it clearly is a trend - I looked at several different formations and you can clearly see a trend that shows the French have taken a lot of losses
To summarize so far
1st Foreign Legion Cavalry Regiment in reality is 930 men and 48 AMX-10 RC, in the game its 600 men and 24 AFV's. (which would be the AMX-10 RC vehicles)
13th Foreign Legion Demi-brigade (posted in Djibouti since 1962) in reality is 800 men, in the game its 500 men and they would only have been in that country - they havent been posted anywhere else to take casualties
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Maybe small detachments posted elsewhere?
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Originally Posted by Olefin
2nd Foreign Legion Infantry Regiment - in reality its at 1230 men organized into ten companies, making it the largest regiment in the French Army (that is a direct quote from the site referenced above). In the game it has 600 men. That is over 50 percent casualty rate!
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End of enlistments? Disease?
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Originally Posted by Olefin
2nd Foreign Legion Parachute Regiment- which has seen no fighting since it arrived in the Middle East - in reality it has 1140 men organized into 9 compainies, in the game it has 600 men. Again almost a 50% casualty rate.
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Lack of parachute capable replacements?
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Originally Posted by Olefin
3rd Foreign Legion Infantry Regiment - in reality it has 675 men organized into 5 companies, in the game it doesnt appear but its very obvious that it should be the deployed unit and not the 1st Regiment
1st Marine Regiment - 933 men and 18 AMX 10 RC in reality - in the game they have 500 men and no vehicles, meaning they have lost all their armor and almost half their men.
2nd Marine Regiment - 933 men (broken down as 58 officers, 269 NCO, 606 other ranks) in reality, in the game they are at 500 men - again a huge loss rate
3rd Marine Parachute Regiment - in reality 1120 men in 8 companies, in the game they are down to 750 men
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/terre/pre...erie-de-marine
Plust two big errors that anyone could have found if they had done minimum research
1st Foreign Legion Infantry Regiment - this formation is an administrative regiment and is not a field formation and hasn't been for decades - they are not deployable. |
Maybe renamed for a reason (I'm being charitable here...)
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Originally Posted by Olefin
5th Mixed Marine Regiment - should be in Djibouti and equipped with AMX 10 RC tanks - its been there since 1965 and is still there today - never been redeployed. -definitely should have been mentioned in the RDF setup
Sorry Leg - this is a clear pattern of the French taking a lot of casualties with some units being reduced by 50 percent or more, in several cases units that would only have been in Africa. Thus the French, in many ways, have taken almost as bad a beating as the Americans have in the RDF in fighting the Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritreans, etc.. at Djibouti. These are not fresh units showing up - these are units that have seen a heck of a lot of combat, with deep holes in their TOE's and a lot of equipment and vehicles gone.
They havent taken those casualties in the Middle East itself - the canon is very clear that they are not doing any fighting there. Some of these units are going to show up in what I am doing for Kenya, which will mention events in surrounding countries as well including Djibouti.
I am continuing to do research but so far the trend is definitely a large reduction in manpower and vehicles for every unit I have seen so far in the French FAR, including among units that have done nothing but be garrison troops since they showed up.
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Vehicles due to gradual wear and tear? Transfer to allies?
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Originally Posted by Olefin
There is fighting mentioned in Senegal and Mauritania against pro-Soviet guerrillas in the bio of the French commander of the FAR - but that wouldnt explain the losses in the units that were in Djibouti the whole time.
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