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Originally Posted by The Dark
Has the Abrams rank dropped due to the Saudis losing 20+ of them in Yemen? I think what we're seeing is that even good armored vehicles are vulnerable to poor tactics. The Saudis deployed tanks without infantry support, which promptly got whacked. The Turks deployed tanks in penny-packet lots as fire support, firing from behind berms with no side protection or infantry escort, and got flanked by ATGMs. Based on the turret hatches, at least some of the Turkish 2A4s are early-batch versions, which have inferior armor to modern Leopards (and there are no reports of the Turks having modified their Leopards with more modern armor packages). The armor layout dates to somewhere between 1979 and 1991, depending on exactly what batch the 2A4s came from.
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I thought they were only Leo 1s that were hit. did not know about the Leo 2's getting hit.