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Old 03-04-2025, 11:39 AM
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Default Are We Doomed to Repeat the Past?

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Originally Posted by castlebravo92 View Post
As Poland put it, why is the EU - a group of countries comprising 500 million people insisting that the US, a country of 330 million people, to defend them against Russia, a country with 133 million people and GDP smaller than Texas?
That's a fair question. Europe is also providing monetary and materiel aid to Ukraine. By some metrics, Europe has provided more than the USA.

https://www.reuters.com/world/how-mu...ed-2025-03-04/

That said, I agree that Europe could be doing more.

Are you suggesting that the US abdicate its role as "Leader of the Free World"?

As a Cold War kid, it's hard for me to reconcile US Russia policy today with our foreign policy imperatives of 30 years ago. The USA has been the de facto leader of NATO since 1949, the "Indispensable Nation". For better or for worse, Western Europe has looked to the USA for leadership since 1942. For the most part, we relished that role. And now, during the worst diplomatic/military crisis to hit Europe since WW2, we leap out of the driver's seat because guaranteeing the peace and security of Europe is too expensive? Are the savings worth it?

Do we really want to return to the isolationist foreign policy that the USA adhered to immediately following WWI? Anyone who's studied history knows how that turned out. It certainly didn't lead to peace.

And what message will the USA turning its back on Ukraine send to our allies? What message does it send to Putin, to Xi, and to Kim?

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Originally Posted by LoneCollector1987 View Post
Then we need to produce weapons and raising armies.
In response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, several European countries have indeed been increasing their defense spending over the past few years.

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