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Originally Posted by Olefin
Urban Guerrilla
New American forces use a mix of armored bank cars as armored personnel carriers and assault vehicles - with a machine gun turret on the top that is used to support their troops in close in assaults. They used a variety of armored cars including small, medium and large ones.
And they used them to bring troops right up into the fighting where they deployed right into the fighting - so not armored taxis for sure
US Vehicle Guide
Peacekeeper entry
Peacekeeper armored car of 2 78th Armored Cavalry Regiment;
Germany, spring 1998.
Another vehicle from the 278th ACR contemporaneous with
that shown in Plate E1, the Peacekeeper was also most commonly
used by USAF security police for airfield security. This
particular peacekeeper has apparently been recently repainted
which accounts for it having acquired a camouflage pattern and for the less weathered look of the vehicle compared to "Lady
Jane". Note the searchlight mounted on the machine gun gun
shield.This was a common feature on airfield security vehicles
and has been retained by this crew.
In addition to airfield defense, a number of Peacekeepers were
also acquired by the Department of Energy in the early 1980's
for nuclear reactor security. A number of Peacekeepers of both
USAF and DOE origin were used in 1999 to replace vehicle
losses in the 49th Armored Division in Oklahoma.
So the Army was using them to equip Armored Cav Regiments in Germany and to replace lost armored vehicles in the 49th per the canon.
Soviet Army Vehicle Guide
BRDM-3
the 30mm autocannon was very effective against partisans and irregular forces who had little in the way of anti-tank weapons as the war went on
again showing that antitank weapons are at a premium by 2000
Red Star Lone Star
The Mexican armed forces are armed with a mix of rifles - no machine guns, no anti-tank weapons. The only guys with RPG's are the guys in Brownsville and the Soviets and the only grenade launchers in the whole module are in the hands of the Texian Legion who got them from a MilGov unit that didn't have any armor
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Ok, but what is your point with this departure from the thread?
None of these examples, though they exist in game canon, are indicative of real world combined arms theory.
Lets go with number one. Bank cars.
Run flat tires, large windshield of bullet resistant glass laminate, non-turreted, high center of gravity, low power to weight ratio, driver and passenger positions in the front, separate cargo/passenger area to the rear (no door or passage to the drivers compartment), firing ports allowing barrel protrusion (drivers compartment one forward, one left, one right) (cargo one rear, one left, one right), firer cannot use the weapon sights.
Sound about right? The armor protection is rated up to 30.06 / 7.62N on only the best, and most often used for high value cargoes. Typical application drops down to close range and pistol caliber cartridges. The difference between the ATM service truck and casino or bank transfer truck. Hundreds of the first, a dozen of the second.
Use it as an APC, lose it quickly.
Thugs with bank car decide to raid merchant with food and some petrochemicals like motor oil and some kerosene.
Vehicle approaches at a high rate of speed. Merchant guards move to defense recognizing the vehicle for what it is.
Merchant guards engage with M16s, M14s, and Ak-47s. In moments the driver windshield is pocked and shattered forming large circles of fractured glass that impair vision from multiple impacts. The radiator takes multiple punishing impacts from bullet fragments deflecting off the louvers. The front wheels immediately deflate from multiple rifle caliber impacts and sink onto shredding rubber and the aluminum run flat internal wheel. The driver unable to see, with unresponsive steering loses control and the vehicle comes to a rest on its side. The merchant guard using their positions under cover use aimed shots at any sign of movement from inside the vehicle. A detachment of guards moves to the vehicle from the now exposed underside that hasn't any vision blocks, ports, or windows. Using improvised means sets the bank car on fire and retreats.
Thugs are dead and the bank car is destroyed. This is with AT weapons, counter vehicles obstacles, or mines.
Bank cars as APCs is an author taking tremendous liberties with the real capabilities of men and equipment.