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Old 04-23-2012, 01:38 PM
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Upon what are these claims of NATO omnicience based? How could NATO track nearly all the Soviet boomers all of the time, even with SOSUS? I don't want to come across as confrontational- I just want to know what sources back this position.

I mean, even after '91, there have been collisions between submarines. During a naval excercise in the early 2000s, a Chilean diesel attack sub "sank" a USN carrier. These are just a couple of examples of the failure of USN ASW assets.

If NATO ASW assets were as good as some of you are claiming, these things simply couldn't happen.

By brother is a naval intel officer and I've talked to him a couple of times about what I see as a overestimation of USN capabilities during the Cold War. He backs my assessment 100%. The USN had flaws that could have been exploited by Soviet naval assets. I agree with all of the posters that believe that the USN/NATO would have emerged on top, but I don't think the claims that 90-100% of Soviet SSBNs and cruise-missile equipped SSNs would have been neutralized prior to them being able to launch attacks against CONUS targets are credible.

I am, however, willing to change my opinion if some credible sources for these claims are provided.
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