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Default Middle East 2nd archive (Antenna & Matt Wiser)

SAUDI I Corps
2nd ABN Bde (400 men)
14th Artillery Bde (1,700 men, 34 Towed Howitzers)

2nd Arm Div
8th ARM Bde (1,500 men, 26 M60A3)
16th ARM Bde (2,000 men, 40 M1A2)
20th MECH Bde (1,400 men 12 M60A3)

1st Mech Div
12th ARM Bde (2,200 men, 40 M1A2)
6th MECH Bde (1,200 men 11 M60A3)

3rd Mech Div
4th ARM Bde (1,000 men, 20 AMX-30)
10th MECH Bde (1,800 men 13 M60A3)
11th MECH Bde (1,400 men 9 AMX-30)

SANG (audia Arbaia National Guard)
Royal Guard Bde (2,000 men, 8 AMX-30)
3rd SANG MECH Bde (1,400 men, 4 AMX-30)
7th SANG MECH Bde (1,300 men, 4 AMX-30)
15th SANG MECH Bde (1,500 men, 6 AMX-30)
5th SANG Inf Bde (1,200 men)
7th SANG Inf Bde (1,000 men)
13th SANG Inf Bde (1,500 men)
15th SANG Inf Bde (1,400 men)
19th SANG Inf Bde (1,600 men)

EDIT : [Removed AIRFORCE ORBAT]

The 1st Mechanized Division is gurading the northwestern border against Jordania.
The 2nd Armored Division is gurading the northern border against Iraq.
The 2nd Mechanized Division is gurading the southern border against Yemen.
The SANG is an interior force for guarding the royal family.

*Note the ARM and MECH bde should be true what exists in the real world, that would also be true for AF OOB

Antenna

Prewar ORG Saudi Army
ARMOR BATTALION
Headquarter Company
2 Tanks
4 M113 (staff, also maybe M577A1)
6 M106
6 FIM-92A Stinger/MIM-43A Redeye
2 TANK Companies
14 Tanks
3 TANK Troops
4 Tanks

MECHANIZED BATTALION
Headquarter Company
2 IFV/APC
4 M113 (Staff, also maybe M577A1)
6 M106
6 FIM-92A Stinger/MIM-43A Redeye
ANTI-ARMOR Company
12 Anti-armor vehicles
2 MECH Companies
17 APC/IFV
3 MECH Platoons
4 APC/IFV

Those Brigades with M1A1 uses M2 Bradley IFV, M109SP, M163 Vulcan, VCC-1 with TOW-I

Those Brigades with M60A3 uses M113A2 APC, M109SP, M163 Vulcan, VCC-1 with TOW-I

Those Brigades with AMX-30 uses AMX-10P IFV, 155mm GCT, AMX-30SA, AMX-10PSP HOT

FIELD ARTILLERY BATTALION
Headquarter company
5 M113 (or M577A1)
3 ARTILLERY Batteries
6 SP howitzers

AAA ARTILLERY BATTALION
Headquarter company
5 M113 (or M577A1)
3 ARTILLERY Batteries
6 SP AAA

Reconnaissance company
12 Panhard M-3

ARMORED BDE
3 Tank Batt
1 Mech Batt
1 Field artillery batt
1 AAA artillery batt
1 support batt
1 Recce Coy

MECHANIZED BDE
1 Tank Batt
3 Mech Batt
1 Field artillery batt
1 AAA artillery batt
1 support batt
1 Recce Coy

ABN BDE
2 ABN BATT
1 Support Batt

Antenna

Sang Org
INFANTRY BATT
HQ
2 V-150
6 MIM-43 Redeye
6 V-150 w M40RR
3 Infantry Battalions
12-14 V-150

MECH BAttalions
2 V-150
6 FIM-92 Stinger
6 LAVAA
3 Infantry Battalions
12-14 LAV-25

ARMOR Battalions
2 AMX-30
6 FIM-92 Stinger
6 LAVAA
3 Infantry Battalions
10-12 AMX-30

ARTILLERY BATTALION
HQ
4 M577A1
2 Batteries
6 M101/M102 or M198 or FH-77

When the War in Gulf started the AMX-30s that had been in store was transfeered from the Saudi Army to the SANG. One Mech battalion in the SANG mech battalions was converted to Tank Battalion.

INFANTRY BDE
4 Infantry Battalions
1 Artillery battalion

MECHANIZED BDE
3 Mechanized Battalions
1 Armor Battalion
1 Artillery Battalion


Iranian OOB

Iranian HQ Reserve
23rd Special Forces Division (600 men)
55th Parachute Division (900 men, 4 M101A1)
351st SSM Brigade (280 men, 2 SCUD Launchers)
75th Logistics Brigade (600 men)
Iranian Army Helicopter Brigade (5 AH-1J, 3 CH-47C, 5 UH-1)
7th Artillery Group (600 men, 22 M-46/type-59-1)

First Army Headquarters
18th Armored Division (1,200 men, 14 T-72, 6 T-55, 11 BMP-2, 8 M109)
88th Armored Division (1,500 men, 12 M60A1, 4 M47, 12 BTR-60, 9 BTR-50, 6 M109, 3 GHN-45)
28th Mechanized Division (1,400 men, 6 T-72, 13 BMP-1, 6 M109, 3 GHN-45)
1st Artillery Group (1,000 men, 10 BM-21 MRL, 9 Type-63 MRL, 35 M-46/Type-59-1)

Second Army Headquarters
81st Armored Division (1,000 men, 13 Chieftain Mk3/5, 13 M113A1/A2, 3 M 107, 2 2S1)
30th Infantry Division (1,500 men, 7 M-46/type-59-1, 6 D-30)
40th Infantry Division (1,400 men, 9 M-46/type-59-1, 3 D-30)
4th Artillery Group (800 men, 22 Type-63 MRL, 25 M-46/type-59-1)

Third Army Headquarters
84th Mechanized Division (1,100 men, 10 T-62, 12 BMP-1, 5 2S1)
58th Infantry Division (900 men, 8 M-46/type-59-1)
64th Infantry Division (800 men, 4 M-46/type-59-1, 3 D-30)
77th Infantry Division (1,100 men, 7 M-46/type-59-1, 4 D-30)
5th Artillery Group (900 men, 27 Type-63 MRL, 28 M-46/type-59-1)

First Army is locatd Around Bushehr
Second Army is Located around Bandar-e-Khomeyni/Shiraz
Third Army is located around Sirjan

IRANIAN AIRFORCE

11st Sqn (2 F-4E, 1 RF-4E)
22nd Sqn (7 F-5)
61st Sqn (5 F-14A)
62nd Sqn (5 F-4D)
91st Sqn (3 C-130)

The Iranian has got loads of spareparts for their aircrafts thru USA when the war begun. Therefore they could make airworthy a larger part of their old airforce.

Matt Wiser

Good work on a ground OB, but you have some things wrong with the Iranian AF, may I suggest:

11th TFS: at least two more F-4Es and another RF-4E.
21st TFS: F-5s seem OK.
61st TFS was and still is an F-4E unit. The F-14s are concentrated in the 81st, 82nd, and 83rd TFS. 81st and 82nd are at Khatami-Esfhahan (TFB , the 83rd is at Meherabad IAP/TFB 1.
62nd TFS is also an F-4E squadron.
91st is a TFS: they are F-4E equipped, they're known as the Sharks. C-130s are in the 11th and 12th TTS.
F-4Ds are in either the 101st TFS at Chah Bahar, or in the 306th TFS at Shahroki-Hamadan AB.
No Su-24s? They are in the 71st and 72nd TFS at Shiraz AB. MiG-29s are in the 12 TFS and the 23rd TFS. (Mehrabad IAP/TFB1 and Tabriz AP/TFB 2.

There would only be four active ABs in 2000: Shiraz International (known as TFB 7), Bushehr (TFB 6) Omidyeh (TFB 5) and Bandar Abbas (TFB 9) . Where are the squadrons located?

Antenna

Thanx Matt for the Iranian AF OOB, I wasn't shure on the fact I had aviable =)

I buy your version any day.

Antenna

Matt Wiser

If you want, use my RDF OB from a while back: the Iranian AF is included. Your ground info is dead on.

Antenna

Well, I checked your AF OOB two days ago and send it to one of the yahoo lists to someone that needed OOBs about the Gulf/T2k =)

I looks really good =)

Antenna

What to do with the US forces that enter the RDF domain from Europe Dec/2000 ?

Well, here is one idea I run a couple of years ago (found notes remeber this is when the net was young and innocent)

~200 men would go to US Navy
~600 men would go to US Airforce

That leaves us with ~5100 men (true the book says 6,000 men but I said 5,900 men instead in my notes, not a misscalc just how I wanted it)

Well, these troops would on their journey to Iran have a rough idea what forces they could form and would have had limited infosharing with a higher command what was aviable in these 5,900 men force.

So here is my take on US Army addition (note that these forces would have to train togther for at least 1-2 months before entering the fighting ranks, just to give the troopers an idea what unit they are in the gulf)

511th ABN RGT (700 men)
90th MTN RGT (600 men)
27th LTH CAV/MOTO RGT (1,000 men, 6 M101A1)
28th LTH CAV/MOTO RGT (1,000 men, 6 M101A1)
29th LTH CAV/MOTO RGT (1,000 men, 6 M101A1)

Diffenerent "replacments/strengthen up" for various Support units : 600 men


The question about Iraqi Army when there came revised OOBs for the USA Forces in the Gulf made me do this. The Forces in Iraqi Armed Forces is taken before the War on Terror and the attack on Iraq. The Divisions has been moved around a little to also be more true to the RDF SB OOB. Some notes is also added. The armed Forces on the ground is the regular army and the Republican Guard (who ihas best equipment). There is also 10,000 men and women in the defence battalions, they still only have AKM assault guns and SKS rifles. Later on I will try to get my view on other equipment and the Iranian Forces.

IRAQ USSR Supported

NORTHERN ARMY
I Corps
5th MD (600 men, 4 T-62s)
8th ID (1,200 men, 3 T-55s)
16th ID (1,800 men, 5 T-55s)
38th ID (900 men)

BAGHDAD ARMY
II Corps
3rd AD (1,200 men, 14 T-62s)
15th ID (400 men)
34th ID (100 men) [Most of this division defected to USA]
V Corps
6th AD (1,000 men, 12 T-62s)
10th AD (1,400 men, 3 T-62s)
14th ID (1,000 men)

SOUTHERN ARMY
III Corps
1st MD (1,000 men, 10 T-62s)
4th ID (1,200 men)
6th AD (600 men, 2 T-62s)
51st MD (800 men, 6 T-62s)
IV Corps
2nd ID (1,000 men, 3 T-55s)
11th ID (1,000 men, 3 T-55s)
18th ID (1,500 men, 4 T-55s)

REPUBLICAN GUARD

NORTHERN REPUBLICAN CORPS
1st Hammarubi Div (1,400 men, 4 T-72s)
7th Adnan Div (1,300 men, 4 T-72s)

BAGHDAD REPUBLICAN CORPS
3rd Tawakalna Div (1,100 men, 10 T-72s)
4th Al-Faw Div (1,800 men, 17 T-72s)
5th Baghdad Div (3,000 men, 12 T-72s)

SOUTHERN REPUBLICAN GUARDS
2nd Al-Medinah Div (1,200 men, 10 T-72s)
6th Nebuchadnezzar Div (1,400 men, 12 T-72s)

NATIONAL DEFENCE BATTALIONS
10,000 men light infantry in 150 Coy's & Batt

IRAQI AIRFORCE
84th Sqn (3 Mig-23)
9th Sqn (1 Mig-21, 1 J-7)
69th Sqn (2 Su-20)
5th Sqn (4 Su-25)
6th Sqn (2 Mig-29)
8th Sqn (2 An-2, 1 An-26)



IRAQ (US SUPPORTED)
Group Kirkuk (400 cav)
Group Ar Ramadi (300 men)
Group Dezful (800 men, 4 T-55s) [ex 34th ID]

The Us supported forces is mainly a hit and run forces won by heart of mind.

IRAQ (FRANCE SUPPORTED)
1st ArmBde (1,000 men, 12 AMX-30s)
Basrah Bde (1,000 men, 4 AMX-30s)
Al Amarah Bde (800 cav)
Al Ubayyid Bde (700 men)
1st Ma'dan Group (500 men)
2nd Ma'dan Group (400 men)

The France supported forces is equiped with frence weapons those who has tanks.
The cavalry and infantry bde's has standard Iraqi weapons as for antional defence battalions, with french AT weapons


Israeli ORBAT
Here we go with Israeli ARMY DIV/BDE ORBAT

NORTHERN COMMAND

36th Division (2,300men, 12 Merkava 1, 7 M60A3)
1st Bde
2nd Bde
401st Arm Bde

146th Division (3,100men, 9 Merkava 1, 4 Centurion Mk3/5)
3rd Bde
6th Bde
27th Arm Bde

240th Division (3,100men, 23 Merkava 4, 36 Merkava 3 Baz)
8th Arm Bde
19th Arm Bde
37th Arm Bde


CENTRAL COMMAND

85th Division (5,000men, 12 Merkava 3, 9 Merkava 2, 12 M60A3)
4th Bde
5th Bde
9th Arm Bde

91st Division (7,000men, 31 Merkava 3, 12 Merkava 2, 14 M60A1)
16th Bde
17th Bde
10th Arm Bde
45th Arm Bde

162nd Division (3,000men)
31st Para Bde
55th Para Bde
202nd Para Bde

880th Division (6,800men, 20 Merkava 4, 34 Merkava 3 Baz, 14 Magasch 7)
18th Bde
19th Bde
17th Arm Bde
188th Arm Bde


SINAI COMMAND

143rd Division (3,000men, 12 Merkava 3 Baz, 10 Merkava 1, 12 Magasch 7)
9th Bde
30th Bde
79th Arm Bde

252nd Division (4,000men, 27 Merkava 3, 9 Centurion Mk3/5)
79th Bde
211th Bde
20th Arm Bde

440th Division (3,000men, 35 Merkava 3 Baz, 14 Merkava 2, 7 Merkava 1)
70th Arm Bde
500th Arm Bde


CENTCOM

35th Abn Bde (900men)
7th Arm Bde (800men, 13 Merkava 4, 5 Merkava 3)


Headquarter + reserves
Assad Armored Bde (800 men, 10 T-72)
8th Arm Bde (600 men, 6 T-62)
11th Inf Bde (600 men)
12th Arm Bde (700 men, 5 T-62)
32nd Inf Bde (600 men)
42nd Mech bde (800 men, 4 T-55)
2nd Commando Group (500 men)
8th Commando group (600 men)

Syrian I Corps (border to Israel)
5th Mech Div (1.300 men, 8 T-72)
7th Mech Div (1.700 men, 6 T-72, 5 T-62)
14th Arm Bde (400 men, 2 T-55)
15th Arm Bde (500 men, 4 Centurion Mk3/5)
52nd Mech Bde (300 men)
4th Commando Group (250 men)

Syrian II Corps (border to Jordania)
9th Mech Div (1.900 men, 12 T-72)
19th Inf Bde (450 men)
91st Arm Bde (400 men, 2 Centurion Mk3/5)
123rd Inf bde (600 men)
6th Commando group (300 men)

Border to Turkey
89th Infantry Bde (700 men)

Syrian IV Corps (as RDF Sourcebook)
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