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Old 12-17-2023, 07:08 PM
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A couple other potential oldies that I'm not sure have been mentioned in the thread and that could pop up in the European Theater of the Twilight War:

The T-10 heavy tank wasn't withdrawn from Russian reserves until 1996.

The utterly terrible Charioteer left Finnish service as a training tank in 1980, but they kept 15 in storage until 2007. Charioteer is basically a Cromwell with the 84mm QF 20 pounder fitted into a turret with no more than 30mm of armor.

Switzerland's Panzer 61 remained in second-line service until enough Panzer 87 had been manufactured to replace them in 1994.

And since I brought them up, stats for Yugoslavia's ex-American tank destroyers:

M18 Hellcat
This vehicle was built for speed first, firepower second, and protection not at all.

Fire Control: +1
Armament: 76mm M1 L/52 (turret, 45 rds), 12.7mm M2HB (ring mount, 800 rds)
Fuel Type: G, A
Veh Wt: 17 tonnes
Crew: 5 (commander, loader, gunner, driver, assistant driver)
Mnt: 6
Night Vision: Headlights
Tr Mov: 249/174
Com Mov: 41/29
Fuel Cap: 620
Fuel Cons: 300
Config: Veh
Susp: T: 2
HF: 5
HS: 4
HR: 4
TF: 8
TS: 4
TR: 4

76.2mm M1 L/52
Rng: 400 Rld: 1
HE: C:7 B:19 Pen 4C
AP: Dam 17 Pen 20/18/15/10
HVAP: Dam 17 Pen 35/30/26/17


M36 Jackson
The biggest of the United States' WW2-era tank destroyers, fitted with the 90mm gun that would later see use on Pershing and Patton tanks, built on either an M10A1 tank destroyer hull (M36) or an M4A3 Sherman tank hull (M36B1). The Sherman hulls had an extra bow machine gun. Since Yugoslavia had both these and some Patton tanks in service, they developed new 90mm HE and HEAT rounds in the late 1960s and early 1970s. As far as I'm aware, no new AP round was introduced. There were roughly 7 M36 for every 1 M36B1 in Yugoslavian service. By the time of the Twilight War, they had switched to diesel fuel instead of gasoline.

Fire Control: +1
Armament: 90mm M3 L/53 (turret, 47 rds), 12.7mm M2HB (pintle, 1000 rds), 7.62mm M1919A4 (bow, 2000 rds, M36B1 only)
Fuel Type: G, A
Veh Wt: 29 tonnes
Crew: 5 (commander, loader, gunner, driver, assistant driver)
Mnt: 10
Night Vision: Headlights
Tr Mov: 118/71
Com Mov: 19/12
Fuel Cap: 727
Fuel Cons: 500
Config: Veh
Susp: T: 2
(M36 / M36B1)
HF: 20 / 18
HS: 7 / 11
HR: 7 / 11
TF: 23
TS: 10
TR: 10

90mm M3 L/53
Rng: 410 Rld: 1
HE: C:10 B:22 Pen 7C
AP: Dam 20 Pen 42/36/31/20
HVAP: Dam 20 Pen 71/62/53/34

1970s upgraded rounds:
M67 HE: C:12 B:24 Pen 7C
M74 HEAT: C:8 B:20 Pen 65C
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