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[Abbott Shaull]

What are the thoughts of what happen to places like the many nations in the South Pacific or for that matter South America and Africa. I know many of these area had virtually nothing written and more scarce than info of what happen Korea...

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by Abbott Shaull

What are the thoughts of what happen to places like the many nations in the South Pacific or for that matter South America and Africa. I know many of these area had virtually nothing written and more scarce than info of what happen Korea...

That will depend on everyone I think but here are my thoughts on the subject:

About the South Pacific, I tend to go by the book: mostly untouched (except Hawaii) but overpopulated and with conditions changing greatly from island to island.

Africa is in turmoil and was slightly touched by the nukes: Algeria, Cabinda, Egypt, Libya and Nigeria.
- Morocco (allied to NATO), Algeria (oil), Libya (oil) and Egypt were all hit by nukes and are in turmoil, reverting to city states involved in piracy. Libya might still has some fuel available with a working refinery in the Gulf of Sirta. Tunisia is intact and allied to France. Western Sahara is now fully under control of Polisario and can be considered organized but almost empty. Tuaregs returned to a fully nomadic life and control the sands of Sahara.

- South Africa is the sole fully independent country with some kind of organization and it dominates most of the southern continent (it probably controls Botswana and Namibia). However, it is probably involved in fighting with several neighbors: Zimbabwe, Mozambique and Angola. It might even have used a few nuclear bombs against them. The government was able to restart many power plants that had been disabled by the EMPs aand it ihas more coal than needed. Public transportation is even common as it relys on steam power locomotives. The country might also be one of the few to still engage in limited international trade with almost everyone.

- Kenya is allied to US. Actually US has some troops in the country and might be using the oil refinery at Mombasa to supply its troops in the Middle East. It is strategically important to US and the coastal areas can be considered to be organized. However, rebellious movements are present further away from the sea.

- I consider countries which had some French military presence to have built tighter relations with it and they should be more or less stable (Senegal, Cameroon, Gabon and Djibouti). However, the French should have withdrawn from Ivory Coast (too instable) and Chad (no reason to remain there).

- Togo which was fairly stable found itself under pressure by its neighbors but it might have survived with some help from the French. Benin and Ghana's fates are uncertain.

- Zanzibar has been the location of a terrible if limited civil war but, nowadays, the island is back in the hands of its traditional rulers and it has become again the main commercial center for the Eastern African Coast.

- Everywhere else, cities are in chaos and most rural land has reverted to tribal rules. Diseases have spread and they are still killing a lot of people but many locals are more resilient to them and survive. AIDS continues to be a major health problem but it is mostly confined to the ruined cities. In addition, freed of legal limitations, South Africa is now producing the cure at least for its own people. Ethnic wars took an enormous toll but they are slowly drying up except around the Congo River Basin (including Angola and DRC). By all ways, along with the ruined cities, the congo basin is the most dangerous part of the continent with constant brutal wars and practices such as ritual cannibalism being quite common. Elsewhere, with tribal rules taking over, wars have changed to become tribal borders conflicts (often fought to get slaves from ennemy tribes). Of course, modern infrastructures have been destroyed and could not be repaired but, in fact, who cares? Anyhow, it never worked properly and people have long been used at finding ways around. As a result, Africa is slowly becoming a and of plenty of its own kind. Of course, international aid disappeared but so did international trade and foreign debts. Europeans refusing to addapt have been chased down like annimals but those who truly care are still around while everywhere people took over the land. Local feeding agriculture is now replacing mass-production ones as there is no more export market for the later. Oil shortages hit the continent long before the nukes and Africans where the first to understand that some alternative fuels should be used. This was made easier by the fact that plenty of small-time mechanics were on the continent, often returning back to their native rural community. When regular fuel disapeared, they started to fit the oldest vehicles (they were plenty of these) with gasogenes or other weird equipments. In addition, many villages now produces palm oil and it is widely used in diesel engines. Every African community still has a fair number of vehicles in working order (civilian for the most parts). However, they are not always what they appear to be and, for exemple, a mercedes might be running with a peugeot engine. In addition, local iron workers are making low quality spare parts. In terms of military equipements, heavy weaponry is rare but infantry weapons are everywhere. Even a small number of planes are still flying. These are older models kept in flying condition with whatever needed (car parts are not rare on them) and you'll fly them at your own risks. Finally, limited international trade stall takes place along the coasts and a number of simple sailing ships contantly travel from one harbor to another.

South America is more tricky and my ideas are more personnal. Nevertheless, I can say that in most regions gangs, rebel groups and cartels took over. I keep only a few exceptions.
- Chile is the only stable country and a kind of safe heaven.
- The amazone basin might still be partially organized with communities keep contact through the river and with Manaus being the capital again. Rubber production made its wealth again and occasional commercial ships sail to the city from time to time.
- I still don't know what to do with Uruguay.

Hope it helps

[Legbreaker]

From Mediterranean Cruise:

Libya
The climate of most of Libya is arid, and the land along the coast mostly semi-desert, with shrubs and desert grasses being the predominant vegetation. This region is inhabited by bands of nomadic herders, travelling from place to place as their sheep and goats consume the local foilage.
A small patch of the coast, however, has a drier version of the Mediterranean climate and vegetation found in Sicily and other areas.

Oil
The extensive oil deposits and petroleum handling facilities made Libya a target for nuclear attacks, in order to deny those facilities to the enemy. Efforts by the Libyan government to reopen the fields on a large scale ended in failure, and with the complete disintegration of the remaining Libyan military forces into roving marauder bands, and the subsequent collapse of the Libyan government, the oil remained underground for a while.

It does not take an engineering genius, however, to make diesel fuel from crude oil. Filter out the sand and silt, and let it set for a few days to allow the heavier components to settle out, and the result can be burnt in a diesel engine (although it will burn very dirty). Given an oil well that is in salvagable shape, a little mechanical expertise, and a few 55-gallon oil drums, practically anybody can produce a trickle of diesel. By 2001, a few Libyan communities were doing just that.

The oil was located hundreds of kilometres inland, however, far from the fertile area in Cyreniaca and from food. A trade then developed, with caravans running to the coast carrying petroleum in exchange for food. Some of the military units turned marauders bands were hired to guard these convoys.