OT: Not a good place for a firefight

[copeab]

Two shootings this morning aboard a docked British nuclear sub.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110408/...tain_submarine

[dragoon500ly]

OK, I can see a sentry at the foot of the gangway armed with an assault rifle...I can even see a sentry or two up in the sail/walking patrol armed with an assault rifle...but I have to ask just what the CO was thinking when he had a sentry inside the submarine armed with an assault rifle?

[Fusilier]

Originally Posted by dragoon500ly

but I have to ask just what the CO was thinking when he had a sentry inside the submarine armed with an assault rifle?

It doesn't say that he did.

[Grimace]

"Most things in here don't react well with bullets."

[Abbott Shaull]

Originally Posted by dragoon500ly

OK, I can see a sentry at the foot of the gangway armed with an assault rifle...I can even see a sentry or two up in the sail/walking patrol armed with an assault rifle...but I have to ask just what the CO was thinking when he had a sentry inside the submarine armed with an assault rifle?

I would totally agree. Even with visitors, I think having an armed assault rifle on board in the sub at any time is a no brainer...

[dragoon500ly]

I know the Navy pukes always had armed sentries whenever their ship was carrying nukes; from what I hear though, the interior sentries were armed with shotguns/pistols...sure you will have damage from the projectiles...but someone dumping a mag of 5.56mm would surely do more damage to them "things that shouldn't be shot at".

If nothing else, the ease that this sailor was disarmed is a strong arguement against issuing assault rifles for onboard sentries...

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Back in the early 80's an uncle of mine was forbidden entry on a civilian sub tour - his belt-buckle* was a life-sized .38 snub nose profile in heavy relief (at a glance, looked like a .38). He went back to his car, removed it, and came back and after a quick pat-down got the tour.


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*=this was the early 80s and ridiculous huge brass belt-buckles were the norm in FL.

[LBraden]

Okay, from what I have heard, it sounds like it was a 9mm pistol that was used, not a shotgun or SA-80 family.
And apparently it was a civvy who was involved in engaging and disarming the seaman.