M67 90mm recoilless rifle

[ShadoWarrior]

Does anyone have TW 2013 stats for the M67 90mm recoilless rifle that US airborne troops are now using?

[simonmark6]

It's on Paul's site under US rocket launchers.

[ShadoWarrior]

TW 2013 stats, please, not TW 2000.

[Panther Al]

Good grief. I didn't even think we would still be using those old things. I knew we did in Berlin for the longest while (Mid to late 80's I think?), but that was it. Didn't think we would keep them around to get used over in Afghanistan. I wonder if we made new ammo for it, or going through old stocks - though I hope they had been given a solid QC lookover before issue if that was the case.

[pmulcahy11b]

The 82nd Airborne does not use the M67, AFAIK. The Rangers used to, but has since replaced them with the M3 Carl Gustav launcher. I imagine if the Airborne picked up the recoilless rifle, they too would use the M3.

[ShadoWarrior]

The 101st does.

[Schone23666]

It may be comparing apples to oranges, but if one is surprised that certain old weapons get occasionally dusted off for refurbishment and use:

The Browning M2HB heavy machine gun began undergoing designs and trials around 1918, and began seeing mass production in 1933, and can be found around the world these days, including in the U.S. military. They've been fudging around with possible replacements here and there, but it doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon.

The M14 rifle began seeing use in 1959 or so and has continually popped up here and there, recently thousands of these were reissued to troops in Iraq and Afghanistan as DMR rifles (with refurbishment and modifications), though I'm sure anyone on the boards here who's been over there knows more about this.

These are just two examples, and granted they're firearms compared to the M67, but it's important to remember that one of the weapons that sees more use nowadays in this role, the M3 Carl Gustav ("Goose") came out around 1948 or so itself.

I guess the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies here.

[Brother in Arms]

Schone

Lets not forge the venerable but Awesome M-79 grenade launcher.

Marine Meu (SOC) Force Recon have used upgraded 1911 and 1911A1 since about 1985 to 2012.

I fully agree with you if aint broke don't fix it and the "Goose" as you put it sure aint broke.

[Schone23666]

Originally Posted by Brother in Arms

Schone

Lets not forge the venerable but Awesome M-79 grenade launcher.

Marine Meu (SOC) Force Recon have used upgraded 1911 and 1911A1 since about 1985 to 2012.

I fully agree with you if aint broke don't fix it and the "Goose" as you put it sure aint broke.

Heh, good point. I was a little surprised as well when I started seeing pics of M79's still in use in Afghanistan. I'm assuming they did so because the M79 can accommodate some of the specialized longer 40mm rounds as compared to the M203?

Also, said discussion applies to the OPFOR side as well. The AK47's been around since the beginning of the Cold War, and isn't likely to go away anytime soon either.

[DigTw0Grav3s]

If we're discussing launchers, which 40mm grenade rounds are considered long, and don't work with the M203?

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by DigTw0Grav3s

If we're discussing launchers, which 40mm grenade rounds are considered long, and don't work with the M203?

Behold!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...40_mm_grenades