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Old 08-22-2011, 04:42 PM
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Default OT - Khadaffy's regime falling

I know that the Libyans still have a long way to go, that the revolution is not over yet and that much uncertainty remain for the immediate future but things are now looking much better. I wish them the best and hope they will be able to build a great peace and a nice country.

Anyway, they have put an impressive fight and already achieved a lot and I believe the Libyan people deserve some congratulations.
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yes they do...

in the work i'm doing for my T2k campaign, the Libyans had gotten rid of 'Khadaffy' during the mid-90s and established the Libyan Republic and joined the French dominated Med Alliance. namely due to the fact that the French and Italians are the ones who helped them establish a post-Khadaffy society (and seeing as that real life will have France and Italy taking a major role post revolution, it makes me wonder if it will happen IRL as well).

But I'm still hoping that the Libyan Royal family will be brought back as a constintitutional monarchy IRL. from what i've read, they'd be pushing for a more secular government isntead of the Shiraia Law based government that we're hearing about being created at the moment.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:44 AM
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But I'm still hoping that the Libyan Royal family will be brought back as a constintitutional monarchy IRL. from what i've read, they'd be pushing for a more secular government isntead of the Shiraia Law based government that we're hearing about being created at the moment.
From what I have learned yesterday such a shiraia governement is far from being a reality. A constitutional monarchy seems equally to be out of question. A secular government is the most plausible solution and would be a good news as each successful revolution in the Muslim World is one further blow on Islamic extremism and terrorrism.

Still uncertainty remains. Khadaffy has not been found and one of his son (which had been claimed to be prisoner) is still free. Moreover, the rebels will have to build everything from scratch and that too will be very interesting.
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I hope you are right Mo... but according to Part 1, Article 1 of the alleged draft: “Islam is the Religion of the State, and the principal source of legislation is Islamic Jurisprudence (Sharia).”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62823350/L...sitional-Stage

This has me worried.. along with some of the things that have been coming out of Egypt that aren't being reported here in the US, but are being reported overseas (Christians and other non-Muslims being assaulted & killed, their houses of worship being burned down, ect). The fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is taking a much more active role in the government in Egypt has been something we need to investgiate...

Hell, the fact foreign press has been reporting that some of the leaders of the Libyan resitance against Khadaffy are assosicated with all-Qeada has me worried as well... but I am waiting for more information before i make any final judgements. But i am cautiously optimistic.
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I hope your worries to be wrong but they are justified and I share your caution.

I'm not forgetting that these are revolutions and that revolutions are never achieved in a day.
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Believe me... i really want to see the spread of western-style of democratic republician forms of government all around the world... pure democracy not so much. a tyranny of the majority is still a tyranny, and has been what sparks crimes against humanity in the vein of ethnic cleansing more often than not.

I was raised with 'Prepare for the Worse and Hope for the Best" type of mindset. And that's what I am doing... To many times we've seen the Arab Spring turning into something less than what we hoped it to be (hell, the NIGHT they were celebrating in the streets of Egypt... the crowd was gang raping a female journalist when the spotlights on the cameraman's camera had burned out).

And now with the growing number of attacks that are being made on religious minorities (rapes, murders, arsons, ect) and the creation of National Socialist Parties in several of the "Arab Spring" countries has been frightening. And now that Foreign press are reporting that al-Qeada associates are in high ranking positions of the Libyan Revolutionary Governing Council....

I'm cautiously optiomitistic... but worried none the less.
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