RPG Forums

Go Back   RPG Forums > Role Playing Game Section > Twilight 2000 Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-30-2011, 01:10 PM
Adm.Lee Adm.Lee is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,386
Default StratFor report with implications for American recovery

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/201...vitable-empireHere's an interesting geopolitical analysis of America. A key point is that the navigability of the Mississippi River and its tributaries are a tremendous natural advantage to whomever lives there.

To my mind, it reinforces the idea that a key goal for Milgov/Civgov in 2001 should be securing the Mississippi watershed. IMO, send at least half of the returning OMEGA forces around to the new mouth of the Mississippi, and send most of the rest over the Alleghenies from Norfolk to Pittsburgh.

Tiny piece of family history: Shortly after the American Revolution, one of my ancestors moved to southwestern Pennsylvania. For several years, after harvest he would carry his crop (and his neighbors') by flatboat down the Ohio and Mississippi to sell them (and the boat) at New Orleans. He'd then get on a ship to Philadelphia, use most of the cash for whatever tools and things his neighbors had asked for, and then carry it back over the mountains by pack-horse. I can't imagine he did it alone, but he made this trip more than once. It had to have taken weeks, and it was not safe. The north bank of the Ohio and some of the Mississippi were still Indian country, and there were pirates/bandits on the rivers. New Orleans was still a Spanish (then French) port at that time.
__________________
My Twilight claim to fame: I ran "Allegheny Uprising" at Allegheny College, spring of 1988.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-30-2011, 06:29 PM
dragoon500ly dragoon500ly is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: East Tennessee, USA
Posts: 2,894
Default

Good point!

Related would be the changes on Old man River following the nuclear strikes, as the system of levees breaks down, we will get to see the Mississippi get wider (estimates are as much as 1-1.5 miles wide), as well as major changes in the river's course.
__________________
The reason that the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-30-2011, 10:27 PM
Targan's Avatar
Targan Targan is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 3,749
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragoon500ly View Post
Related would be the changes on Old man River following the nuclear strikes, as the system of levees breaks down, we will get to see the Mississippi get wider (estimates are as much as 1-1.5 miles wide), as well as major changes in the river's course.
Hence Adm Lee's mention of the new mouth of the Mississippi.
__________________
"It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-01-2011, 01:28 AM
Webstral's Avatar
Webstral Webstral is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North San Francisco Bay
Posts: 1,688
Default

The Father of Waters entering the Gulf through the Atchafalaya will not be convenient. No. No, sir. It will not be convenient.
__________________
“We’re not innovating. We’re selectively imitating.” June Bernstein, Acting President of the University of Arizona in Tucson, November 15, 1998.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-01-2011, 01:48 AM
Snake Eyes's Avatar
Snake Eyes Snake Eyes is offline
[Armchair Commando]
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Walnut Creek
Posts: 203
Send a message via MSN to Snake Eyes Send a message via Yahoo to Snake Eyes
Default

George Friedman also wrote a couple epic StratFor articles in the lead-up & aftermath of Katrina (dated 8/28 & 9/1/2005) on the strategic importance of New Orleans, the Port of Southern Louisiana and the Mississippi River delta.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-11-2011, 09:11 PM
StainlessSteelCynic's Avatar
StainlessSteelCynic StainlessSteelCynic is offline
Registered Registrant
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 2,375
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake Eyes View Post
George Friedman also wrote a couple epic StratFor articles in the lead-up & aftermath of Katrina (dated 8/28 & 9/1/2005) on the strategic importance of New Orleans, the Port of Southern Louisiana and the Mississippi River delta.
Okay so this is tangentially related to Katrina but I found the following passage interesting in relation to how things seem to be in the Western World at the moment - particularly when it comes to such things as "political correctness".
It comes from a larger discussion on ethics from a now defunct website but the whole article can be found in the link after the passage I'm referencing.
I've highlighted certain sentences as much for importance as for breaking up the 'wall of text' look.

"The people within the society begin to believe that it exists solely for their benefit and over a period of time the survival of the society is taken for granted. Individual viewpoints are common and consensus is a matter of offending the least number of people. Soldiers are phased out because they are nasty and, after all, kill other people. Funds are spent on the well being of the individual and not on the protection of the state. Individuals in the society contribute less-and-less while demanding more. Positive ethical issues start to conflict with other positive ethical issues. (I.e. “Child Protection Laws” versus the “Rights of the Parent”.). Criticism, blame and responsibility are avoided unless it’s aimed at the leadership. Slowly, the society becomes increasingly introverted and vulnerable until it “falls” victim to social / financial disaster or the barbarians at the gates. No great civilization has survided this process - yet."

In a sense, this passage is saying to me that reasoned conflict for a greater aim is not necessarily a bad thing and a group/society etc. should look outwards as much as inwards but should also look to the greatest benefit to the greatest number of people - because an overabundance of "ethical" or "appeasement" behaviour actually stifles a group/society.

Maybe I'm being a touch too philosophical but seriously, screw political correctness, all it does is hide the reality.

Full article here http://web.archive.org/web/201104221...om/ethics.html
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-03-2012, 05:15 PM
kalos72's Avatar
kalos72 kalos72 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 921
Default

This link dead?
__________________
"Oh yes, I WOOT!"
TheDarkProphet
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-03-2012, 07:00 PM
cavtroop cavtroop is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Central, GA
Posts: 233
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kalos72 View Post
This link dead?
Stratfor got hacked (BIGTIME) last week, so their site it down for the time being while they clean the mess up:

https://www.google.com/search?source...w=1090&bih=752
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.