A new (fictional) British unit

[James Langham]

A new unit for TW2000 made up of Poles living in the UK (best read with 27 (Polish SAS).

[rcaf_777]

Nice Work


Just an FYI the Polish fought under the Canadian durring WWII and there many Polish Vet Legions here in Canada and several large Polish communities in Canada, when I joined the CF in 1994 many of the guys I ended up going through basic were of Polish background, one had recived alot of training under the old system when inducting to the "Youth Corps"

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by rcaf_777

Nice Work


Just an FYI the Polish fought under the Canadian durring WWII and there many Polish Vet Legions here in Canada and several large Polish communities in Canada, when I joined the CF in 1994 many of the guys I ended up going through basic were of Polish background, one had recived alot of training under the old system when inducting to the "Youth Corps"

Really useful info, how strong is the feeling of Polish identity? Would a Polish militia unit be feasible? If so where would it likely be recruited from?

[simonmark6]

Lovely write up again, James, thanks for sharing. I may have missed it when I was reading, but it might be nice to have a rational as to why the Polish were placed into one regiment rather than being absorbed into INTEL and shared out amongst the Recon units in Poland itself.

The SAS unit made up of Poles makes perfect sense, they'll be behind lines and all need to speak the lingo. It might be something like the fact that HM Gov wanted the propaganda coup of having a "Polish" unit fighting for the West (similar to the British SS unit in WW2). Initial theory might have said that the unit would never be deployed on Polish soil for fear of retribution (this would obviously collapse when the fighting got desperate).

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by simonmark6

Lovely write up again, James, thanks for sharing. I may have missed it when I was reading, but it might be nice to have a rational as to why the Polish were placed into one regiment rather than being absorbed into INTEL and shared out amongst the Recon units in Poland itself.

The SAS unit made up of Poles makes perfect sense, they'll be behind lines and all need to speak the lingo. It might be something like the fact that HM Gov wanted the propaganda coup of having a "Polish" unit fighting for the West (similar to the British SS unit in WW2). Initial theory might have said that the unit would never be deployed on Polish soil for fear of retribution (this would obviously collapse when the fighting got desperate).

Thanks for the comments, always useful to have feedback.

A fair number of British Poles would be in Military Intelligence (there is a note that a number who failed selection for 27 SAS were so used) but I will expand this to make it clearer.

I actually see the unit clamoring to fight in Poland and the Polish Government in exile will be pushing for this.

Bear in mind that few if any will have actually ever been to Poland so the local knowledge and slang, etc will be missing making them harder to fit in as Poles when speaking to locals (although they could probably pass amongst other Pact troops).

[simonmark6]

I could absolutely see the unit being eager to fight in the Old Country but I think the government would be initially reluctant for PR purposes. There will be worries about what would happen to them if captured etc.

This would explain why they were deployed so late to the Polish Theatre.

[rcaf_777]

Originally Posted by James Langham

Really useful info, how strong is the feeling of Polish identity? Would a Polish militia unit be feasible? If so where would it likely be recruited from?

I think that it would'nt be a big stretch to see Free Polish units beeign recruited from the UK, US and Canada, the US could supply weapons and training, Germany also might rasie some Polish units but hard to say what is movties migth be?

Based on what I found most of Polish Persons I might have huge attchment to the Poland and still speak Polish and Russian

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by rcaf_777

I think that it would'nt be a big stretch to see Free Polish units beeign recruited from the UK, US and Canada, the US could supply weapons and training, Germany also might rasie some Polish units but hard to say what is movties migth be?

Based on what I found most of Polish Persons I might have huge attchment to the Poland and still speak Polish and Russian

US & Canadian units would be logical, maybe a joint unit. What do others think? Some would be assigned to SF, not 100% sure the US would go for Polish units preferring to integrate (this might give a good contrast) - especially as the Polish Free Government would want control of them.

Germany could be an interesting wild card, not sure how wide the recruiting base would be though.

[Fusilier]

Originally Posted by James Langham

What do others think?

I don't buy it personally. I'm just unconvinced that a NATO country would raise such units instead of placing said recruits in pre-existing units. On that note, how many Iraqi combat units were raised within the United States Army?