So What Teams are Needed for the Project?

[dragoon500ly]

According to canon, we have Recon Teams, MARS Teams, Science Teams, Agriculture Teams, Frozen Watch, Specialty Teams and Communications Teams...soooooo what other types of teams would you see see involved in the Project?

My own take is this is the primary teams fielded by the Project:

Recon Teams
MARS Teams
Science Teams
Aviation Teams
Medical Teams
Engineering Teams
Communications Teams
Logistics & Support Teams
Power Generation Teams
Decontamination Teams
Command Teams
Combined Teams
Base Teams
Regional Command Teams

[ArmySGT.]

Contact Teams. Using Civilian (alcohol powered) vehicles, wearing civilian clothes, and civilian pistol and hunting rifles. Acting as refugees, or barters they evaluate a village or camp for later action. Intelligence gathering not recovery or action is their method.

Probably a small RV or Delivery van for transport.

[ArmySGT.]

Transportation.

Truck drivers. A group of Driver/Co-driver teams operating rugged Tractor trailer rigs or Trucks equipped with the palletized loading system.

Material needs to be transported to where it is needed. Whether that is a a container box of disaster recovery supplies or a load of gravel to fix a road.

The ability to drop the trailer and return for another or to set down a 20 or 40 foot container is crucial as the number of trucks and drivers is limited. Additionally this reduces dependence on one off models of truck that remain stationary while in use.

[ArmySGT.]

A full hospital.

Medical Teams are likely traveling about in XR-311s or Ambulance model V-150. Some patients need surgeons, or long term care such as a burn ward.

Taking from a Mobile Army Surgical Hospital concept. A full hospital could be located close to an area where it could be needed with the intention of course that more nurses, doctors, and EMTs would gravitate in from the survivors.

[ArmySGT.]

Agricultural Teams should be split into two types. Crops and Veterinary.

Both with the intent of restoring food production to sustainable levels. Each with abundant frozen stocks of pre-War seed stock.

[mikeo80]

Let me pose an interesting alternate history. This team is HIGHLY speculative.

From TM 1-1, we know that the USA launched first. That would have given President G.H.W. Bush and Vice President D. Quale about 15 to 45 minutes to get to AF1 and AF2 and get the hell out of town.

(My logic is as follows, the "normal" warning time is app 5-15 minutes. Depending what the USSR fires first, their ICBM's (app 15 min) or their SLBM's (app 5 min) Now if USA fires first, USSR has about same warning, then their responce has to get here. Hence my thought of about 15 - 45 min warning. I would think it would be a "safe" assumption that once the leadership of the USSR knew our stuff was inbound, there had to be a minute or two of "WHAT THE F***!!!! Or the Russian equivalent.)

So, what if, not only does G.H.W. Bush get out of town, he gets to a very deep Morrow Base in S/SW Virginia. (He is told of this by Sec Def. Just like President is told of Area 51 in movie Independence Day). There he is met by a fully vetted Morrow Security Team intermingled with Secret Service. The base has full commo links to USA Military assets, as well as links to all Morrow assets. G.H.W. Bush MUST have access to the "football" since the launch by USA is based on an all out USSR "attack." There could even be additional Morrow/Military assets on site in deep sleep.

This give the GM an interesting scenario. The base described above becomes Prime. One in Nevada becomes Prime 2. This also give some REAL muscle to the security forces. This prevents the successfull attack on Nevada Prime by Krell. (I would think that Seal Team 6, or surviving equivalent would take care of THAT anoyance.)

This also does something else. Remember that Morrow is pledged to not take power. HERE in my PB1, I have the REAL President of the United States. The Government is acting for the country. AND the wake up can start, say one year from "The Day" vs five. Much better recovery possibilities.

My $0.02

Mike

[robj3]

dragoon50ly wrote:

My own take is this is the primary teams fielded by the Project:

I've got a different hierarchy:

i. Field: The teams described in the modules (except for the Agricultural one in the 'Fall Back' module)

Recon - includes the 'Contact teams' described by ArmySGT
MARS
Science

ii. Area: Higher level, specialised teams, many based around fixed installations.

Agriculture (plant and animal crops)
Logistics - resupply and transport (ground,water, air for larger projects)
Communications/Command - 'C3I' at the area level
Medical - includes NBC decontamination (population); small clinics or hospitals at the high end.
Engineering - power, infrastructure, decontamination/reclamation (land and building assets) etc.

iii. Region: Top tier; the North American operations area is divided into at most a dozen Project regions.
C3I (command, communications, control, intelligence)
Prime and regional bases (e.g. Starnaman depot as regional asset)
Engineering (e.g. fusion plant factory, rocket base if you must have one)
Medical (hospital size facilities; research bases)
Science (research facilities; universities)


mikeo80 wrote:

This team is HIGHLY speculative.

In 1989, the Soviets had continuous launch on warning capability (available from 1984) with satellites watching the U.S. ICBM fields for missiles lifting off.

This gave them 30 minutes' warning[1].
Poseidon or Trident I could have been launched from areas not well covered by warning radars - minimum time 7 minutes from launch to impact.

Similarly, the U.S. had launch on warning capability with the Defense Support Program (DSP) constellation - though one presumes they were caught up in the computer malfunction that led to the U.S. launching a first strike[2].

The speed of Soviet retaliation would have been determined by the ability of the General Secretary, defense minister and the chief of the General Staff to jointly authorise a strike[3].

The TM1-1 strike is a bit wimpy, especially when compared to the actual Soviet arsenal in 1989.

Continuity of Government installations in Virginia, Maryland and West Virginia would have been primary targets.

The Project building hardened installations close to DC seems unlikely - someone in the FBI or other agencies would have taken notice.


Rob

[1]http://cisac.stanford.edu/publicatio...warning_system
[2] J.T. Richelson "America's Space Sentinels: DSP Satellites and National Security" University Press of Kansas, 1999.
[3]B.G. Blair "The Logic of Accidental Nuclear War" Brookings Institution, 1993.
p.64-74; chapter 4 provides an overview of the Soviet/Russian C&C system

[ArmySGT.]

The explanation for the lacking Soviet response is that the surprise was total and the Soviet Premier and High Command were out of position.


The response came from "Dead Hand".

http://www.wired.com/politics/securi...urrentPage=all

[ArmySGT.]

If you purchase the Classic Fringeworthy complete CD rom from Tri Tac games it comes with a .pdf of the original 1973 story written by Robert Sadler.

Present at a meeting to discuss Bruce Morrow and what the Morrow Project is are The National Science Advisor, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, and the Secretary of the Interior.

Hints at what the Government officials knew are given in the narrative.

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

The explanation for the lacking Soviet response is that the surprise was total and the Soviet Premier and High Command were out of position.


The response came from "Dead Hand".

And maybe, just maybe, our first strike actually worked to some extent. The Interesting thing about the American first strike,is that it had to be mostly ICBM and SLBM. The B-52's would arive later... By that point, there probably was not a whole lot left for them to do.

My $0.02

Mike

[Matt W]

Information and Coordination Teams

The Morrow Project can't rebuild everything. The IACT job is to get survivors working together and working with the Morrow Project

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by Matt W

Information and Coordination Teams

The Morrow Project can't rebuild everything. The IACT job is to get survivors working together and working with the Morrow Project

That is a good one, Matt!

My $0.02

Mike