Greece v. Turkey

[Raellus]

I know that some fans have a problem with Greece & Italy turning their coats from NATO to the Warsaw Pact during the Twilight War (at least, as it's described in the v1 timeline; I don't know about how it's addressed in v2.2 and, frankly, I don't care). I used to take issue with this as well, but in the last few years, my thoughts on the matter have changed quite a bit. This article gives some historical context regarding very recent tensions between the two nominal NATO allies.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...orces-stack-up

I wonder if/how v4 is going to handle Greece & Turkey and their respective alliances (NATO and/or the WTO).

Has Greece and/or Turkey ever factored into your T2k campaigns? If so, how were they handled?

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[Ewan]

Also Turkish involvement in Libya might lead to even more French support for Greece.
https://www.ft.com/content/3b85dd0e-...b-947b7f75a03e

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I wonder if/how v4 is going to handle Greece & Turkey and their respective alliances (NATO and/or the WTO).
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Given that the kickstarter page infers that only Poland and Sweden are covered in any depth, I would hazard a guess that Greece & Turket are given cursory treatment only.
However, with the announcement of the Homeland Hack stretch goal, I would hazard a guess that aside from Poland and Sweden, the entire world only gets cursory treatment.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by StainlessSteelCynic

Given that the kickstarter page infers that only Poland and Sweden are covered in any depth, I would hazard a guess that Greece & Turket are given cursory treatment only.
However, with the announcement of the Homeland Hack stretch goal, I would hazard a guess that aside from Poland and Sweden, the entire world only gets cursory treatment.

Ha ha. Yes, Greece & Turkey really only got cursory treatment in v1- AFAIK, just a few mentions in the history of the Twilight War and a vehicle or two in the NATO Vehicle Guide. I don't really expect more from v4, but I'm wondering if the new version will have NATO stick together, or introduce some internecine conflict (like the original did).

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[StainlessSteelCynic]

For those who pledged to the kickstarter, they will get access to the alpha release of the rules sometime in the near future.
While the intent is for some play testing and feedback so that they can tweak the system before printing of physical copies begins, perhaps there will be some background information included and hopefully that will answer a few questions such as this one?

[Olefin]

Actually Greece got almost totally ignored in V1 except for the short description of events in Med Cruise - they weren’t even included in the NATO vehicle sourcebook even though they were a NATO country - and frankly the defection of Italy is the one I really couldn’t figure out - especially the thrust into Austria and southern Germany. All they did in the end was get themselves nuked by the US and Great Britain. Just staying out of it like Spain and Portugal did would have been much more realistic

[Olefin]

Originally Posted by StainlessSteelCynic

For those who pledged to the kickstarter, they will get access to the alpha release of the rules sometime in the near future.
While the intent is for some play testing and feedback so that they can tweak the system before printing of physical copies begins, perhaps there will be some background information included and hopefully that will answer a few questions such as this one?

There should be a lot of things answered - including the situation in the US which from what I have read is to put it simply not believable - and doesn’t take into consideration what the country actual was back in the 90’s - keep in mind for instance that CA was still a state in the 90’s that had Republican governors and Senators - a situation that is impossible today - so you have to be able to really know history to make the world situation realistic - that was a big part of the research I had to do for Kenya and East Africa and it paid off with comments from those who were actually in that area during the timeline period

[Raellus]

Tension on the water as well as in the air.

https://warisboring.com/turkeys-navy...-provocations/

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