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Old 02-12-2015, 06:38 PM
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Default Recovery boxes.

Ok..... So many contributors argue that all we talk about is guns, guns, guns; that the Morrow Project is about reconstruction.

So here goes and effort to stimulate discussion along that path.

Small, Medium, and Large prepositioned caches of recovery only items meant for the survivors and surviving rebuilders meant to be used 3-5 years after the total nuclear exchange.

Not one weapon (unless you club someone with it) to be included in the kit. Any discipline or mixed disciplines. This can all be medicines like the contents of an ambulance or triage center; or carpentry tools mixed, with garden tools, and police equipment.

Small would be the same as a team cache two meters squared with the steel door opened with a Morrow Project ID intended to be distributed by a Team.

Medium, a 20 foot connex, this gives enough space at 20 feet long by eight feet wide, by eight feet high; for bobcat skidloaders, small under 80hp agricultural tractors, or small back hoes. This could be a field aid station with multiple GP large tents, generator, and medical supplies. It can also be hundreds of thousands of seeds and soil microbes to restore agriculture in irradiated terrain.

Large. How big should large go? 2 20 foot connex boxes or 1000? A massive mine complex filled with metric tonnes of everything? What is the limitation here? Do the unmanned Delta bases themselves meet every criteria for a large reconstruction cache?

To be clear, I don't care about lists. We have done lists, lists, and lists of lists.

* edited* I would like to hear reasoned arguments and justifications for what goes into a post holocaust reconstruction cache of prepositioned materials and why it is located where it is.

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Old 02-12-2015, 08:42 PM
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Figured on several prepositioned 20 foot Connex boxes buried containing equipment in some area's. Hidden in mine tunnels for others and even equipment parked and stored in warehouses in areas where no strikes were expected. Usually each area would be dedicated to a single team. The mine shaft cache will only contain medical gear for a medical team while another team would have there own dedicated caches. For some though there will be dedicated Boltholes for things, like animals with a certain amount of feed and a larger supply at a hidden cache elsewhere. One easily gotten too!
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:16 AM
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I often thought the Project planners would go with largish bases with maybe a thousand containers in the 20' and 40' size. The idea being that there should be a number of trucks that can be made operation to supplement what the Project has. A recon team identifies needs in area and a kit is sent there. The obvious components are 20' liquid carriers with water and diesel fuel, 40' ones with emergency rations, seeds and the like. Generator, fusion or conventional, could also be added to the kit as needed. Medical could be 20' or 40', depending on the size of the need. The containers can either be emptied and used for shelter, field hospital or other quick structural need; or sent with leftover supplies or the generator to help jump start the next area.

The whole idea is to allow the Project to be flexible with the supplies they have and to be able to send just enough of one thing to a community rather than too much or too little. That is how I see it working.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:05 PM
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I have considered another approach to both Team weapons resupply caches and these considered recovery caches.

Time delay release.

Essentially, all of these caches are stored in the Autonav. The caches are not however, displayed until an elapsed time. So the Team still gets their six resupply caches just not all at once. After a time delay set by the planners (GM tool) cache #1 will appear on the autonav. This could be relatively short for areas determined to have a high probability of hostile contact, such as urban centers. The opposite would be true for a low population density area like rural western Kansas or central Nevada.

Something that is intended for aid to the survivors may be immediate like a cache of medical supplies or available after seven to thirty days to give time to recon and assess the operational areas.

The Combined Group Leader's MP ID would override this feature on any team autonav in that leaders Group.

Too much?
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:01 PM
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Small cache: several water-quality test kits, several books on useful topics (mostly health guides like "When there is no Doctor"). At least one windup radio


These caches should be plentiful. They would be enclosed in a PVC cylinder. about 1metre long 20 cm wide and in an easily accessible and standard location - for example - "in the parking lot of XYZ grocery, under the concrete trash bins" . This location should be freely given to survivors. No need to keep them secret.
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Medium caches: Tools for clearing roads and a "radio station in a suitcase" . Also some more advanced books on health and engineering.
This would be a 1 metre cube. buried beneath a billboard

Large cache: Now this will need thought and perhaps a list :-)
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Old 02-17-2015, 12:24 PM
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You also have to remember that most of the gear could be prepositioned without being hidden. Remember the teams were going to be awoken 3-5 years after a nuclear war not 150 that happened. So it could be thought that construction equipment, raw materials, or trailers full of goods could be left out in the open for some time. Parking Aircraft in the desert for a few years sealed wouldn't even be an issue. But after 150 its all scrap.
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