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I was wondering... are there any lists or maps showing the European nuke strikes?
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I've never seen one anywhere.
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I don't recall seeing any definitive Target List for mainland Europe. There was very fine line between the tactical exchange on military targets and the targeting of rear area strategic targets with tactical nuclear warheads. This of course morphed into a full strategic nuclear exchange using long range ballistic weapons with yields near or above the megaton range.
To compile any sort of list, one would have to read all of the European based source material to get information directly from the text. This would be very time consuming and almost certainly reveal at least some contradictions. Many of the references of nuclear strike locations within the various modules seemed to be plot driven, though there is often a direct connection to a past military campaign in the area. Unfortunately, there was never an in depth military history of the war that covered all of the major operations and campaigns. We might be able to work up a decent Target List for France, Belgium, Mexico and a few other neutrals based upon known oil facilities and important strategic targets. Benjamin |
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The map that came with the v.1 boxed set and the similar map that came with Going Home showed the cities that had been nuked (although some could have been reduced to rubble in other ways). As Benjamin says, it would be time consuming to transcribe them all. As a GM I try to keep detailed notes of randomly generated radiated areas that were tac nuke targets.
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I finally got a chance to look at these maps. Cities listed in Parentheses are show as rubble. Given the extent of devastation present on the maps I am going to assume that these are tac nukes. As for being time consuming I just mapped out 520 canon units so the Strikes will be no problem. |
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Here are the 88 cities listed as rubble on the 2 maps GDW provided (From The Basic Rules and Going Home Module)
Brest, Belarus Grodno , Belarus Antwerpen, Belgium Gent, Belgium Prague , Czech Ostrava, Czech Republic Lille, France Berlin, Germany Bonn, Germany Borchum, Germany Bremen, Germany Dortmund, Germany Dresden, Germany Duisburg, Germany Dusseldorf, Germany Emmerich, Germany Erfurt, Germany Essen, Germany Frankfurt an Oder, Germany Gara, Germany Gorlitz, Germany Gotha, Germany Hagen, Germany Hamburg, Germany Hannover, Germany Honnef, Germany Jena, Germany Karl-Marx-Stadt, Germany Kiel, Germany Koln, Germany Leipzig, Germany Lubeck, Germany Mulheim, Germany Munchen Gladbach, Germany Operhausen, Germany Rees, Germany Remagen, Germany Siegen, Germany Wesel, Germany Wuppertal, Germany Zwickau, Germany Alphen ad Rijn, Netherlands Amsterdam , Netherlands Breskens, Netherlands Delft, Netherlands Dordrecht, Netherlands Elten, Netherlands Gorinchem, Netherlands Gouda, Netherlands Haarlem, Netherlands Hoek van Holland, Netherlands Katwijk aan Zee, Netherlands Leiden, Netherlands Middelharris, Netherlands Rotterdam, Netherlands s Gravenhage, Netherlands Terneuzen, Netherlands Utrecht, Netherlands Vllssingen, Netherlands Zevenaar, Netherlands Bialystok, Poland Bydgoszcz, Poland Bytom, Poland Chorzow, Poland Czestochowa, Poland Elblag, Poland Gdansk, Poland Gilwice, Poland Gorzow Wielkop, Poland Jelenia Gora, Poland Katowice, Poland Kielce, Poland Loniza, Poland Olsztyn, Poland Opole, Poland Poznan, Poland Przemysl, Poland Radom, Poland Sosnowiec, Poland Stargard, Poland Szczecin, Poland Tarnow, Poland Warsaw, Poland Wloclawek, Poland Wroclaw, Poland Zabrze, Poland Kovel , Ukraine Lviv, Ukraine Here are Canon strikes I received from Chico (thanks again) Bytom, Poland (Black Madonna) Chorzow, Poland (BM) Czestokowa, Poland (BM) Gliwice, Poland (BM)) Katowice, Poland (BM) Nowa Huta, Poland (Free City) Radom, Poland Sosnowiec, Poland (BM) Tarnow, Poland (Soviet Vehicle Guide) Warsaw, Poland This makes me think it is going to be a pretty good match. I will however remove several cities on the Rhine which are listed as rubble. The devastation on the Rhine is total, and I don't think the Soviets would have concentrated on those areas (neglecting others). I believe most of the devastation is due to the conflict with the French which I believe did not have any nukes involved. Though if a city has a large refinery I will still probably nuke it. |
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I reviewed the list given by Kato (taken from basic rules) and disagreed on a few cities. I also found that several were missed. As a result, I tried to complete this list and give it country by country. I left UK aside (as I like the target listed in the game) and I didn’t cover Scandinavia as I consider that it might not have been targeted at all. I also considered that very little city strike hit south-eastern Europe except for one on Ankara (Turkey). However, a number of tactical strikes were registered on the battlefields.
Baltic states region: - Kaliningrad. Belarus: - Brest-Litovsk (Brest) - Grodno - Minsk Ukraine: - Cerkassy - Lvov (Lviv) - Kovel - Kiev - Odessa Poland: report to Kato’s list. Czech Republic: report to Kato’s list. Germany: report to Kato’s list. However, I disagree with Kato on one thing, I considered the Rhineland to be levelled and even add several among the cities that are geographically closed.(such as Frankfurt on Mainz) Netherlands: entirely agree (poor Dutch). Belgium: (No reason to bomb Ghent, that is a non-sense) - Antwerpen - Ostende - Brussel France: - Lille (several hit on Calais, Cambrai, Denain, Dunkirk, Lille and Valencienne). - Strasburg - Le Havre - Brest - Lorient (nuclear sub base) - Toulouse (aircraft and space industries) I consider that Lyon and Marseille survived leaving two major refineries intact. Italy: - Torino - Milano - Bologna - Napoli - Tarento Portugal - Lissabon - Porto (the city survived but the northern area was nuked because of the refinery there) Spain - Barcelona - Bilbao - Madrid - Zaragossa - Valencia - Cadiz Italy, Portugal and Spain were not primary targets but I consider that their industrial centers were hit. |
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