Correction to Terminology

[Webstral]

I'm re-reading Howling Wilderness. The module refers to a Thanksgiving Massacre. I'm embarrassed to admit that there is no Thanksgiving Day Massacre. I believe I foisted this inaccurate term off on the community. Sorry, guys. TDM doesn't even make much sense, since the module claims that the attack on D.C. came the day after Thanksgiving.

Attention to detail, candidate. Sorry again, guys.

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[TiggerCCW UK]

Don't worry about it - I'm fairly I heard the TDM being referred to by more than just you. Personally I also think TDM sounds better than TM and when we're referring to a nuclear holocaust does a day really make much of a difference?

[Targan]

Ditto. I'm used to seeing TDM now. I say we keep it. Or change it to TGM so it still has three syllables

[Rainbow Six]

I'm with Tigger and Targan...in my opinion the Thanksgiving Massacre is part of T2K folkore and TDM is the best way to refer to it.

Cheers

[Cdnwolf]

Now all depends... was it the CANADIAN Thanksgiving or the AMERICAN Thanksgiving that the massacre occurred on... the Canadian one is in October. LOL

I am still trying to figure out what the hell y'all are even talking about?

[Legbreaker]

Thanksgiving is a strictly north American thing. It's utterly meaningless to the rest of the world.

In my opinion the date of the first, or at least arguably most devestating strategic strikes, should have a reference applicable to all nationalities.

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

Thanksgiving is a strictly north American thing. It's utterly meaningless to the rest of the world.

In my opinion the date of the first, or at least arguably most devestating strategic strikes, should have a reference applicable to all nationalities.

...Which is why I refer to it as Black Thursday in my UK work.

[Webstral]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

Thanksgiving is a strictly north American thing. It's utterly meaningless to the rest of the world.

In my opinion the date of the first, or at least arguably most devestating strategic strikes, should have a reference applicable to all nationalities.

Wouldn't the qualifier "most devastating" be highly subjective? The strike on New York in Armies of the Night might kill more people than a similar strike near Sydney, but Australians might very well decide that the Sydney strike means more to them.

The idea of some universal term to describe the strategic exchange is in contravention to the idea of a nuclear exchange that staggers upward. Both sides are trying to avoid having the other believe that a general nuclear exchange is happening. Therefore, for the Soviets to attack targets in the United States, Australia, the UK, Canada, etc. on the same day would invite Anglo-American interpretations of general exchange. Twilight: 2000 is predicated on the idea of an exchange that creeps upward in escalation until all parties suffer a TKO.

A good analogy is 9-11. This is a reference to a specifically American event, but it has a value as such. We can equally refer to the attacks on Madrid trains, the attack in Bali, or the London attacks as part of the general war with terror. I suggest, therefore, that each nation will have a defining threshold that is a part of the overall extended nuclear exchange.

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[kato13]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

Thanksgiving is a strictly north American thing. It's utterly meaningless to the rest of the world.

Well a good portion of canon is written from the perspective of an American historian. This is most obviously seen in some of the vehicle guides picture captions/descriptions.