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01-04-2010, 01:26 PM
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Invasion of Alaska
Dose anybody have OOB or thoughs on this, I am thinking about 207th being expanded into a makeshift Division with a ANG Division from Calforina? being used.
Any thoughts
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01-04-2010, 03:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure the 207th is covered in the US Army Sourcebook as either the 1st or 2nd Brigade, AK ARNG. While any reinforcements for either brigade would be welcome, any troops from California's National Guard should be moved before the nukes. After that point, the National Guard is going to be pretty well tied up with dealing with the nuclear strikes that affect the San Francisco Bay and Los Angeles, plus the influx of Mexican refugees.
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01-04-2010, 03:08 PM
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I know Jason Weiser is working on this right now.
What we're working off of is: On the US side you have the 47th ID (National Guard) that deploys to backfill the 6th ID when it goes to Norway. 207th splits into the 1st and 2nd Arctic recon bdes. And in early 96 the Army stands up an experimental arctic hovercraft bde, using the systems in the v2 US Army Vehicle Guide. Of some use doing static security is about 3 battalions of Alaska state guardsmen, and in the Aluetians there is a USMC Security "company" (almost 500 strong) and USAF security police. On the Soviet side, the Aluetian Front fields: 51st Combined Arms Army (Yuzhno Sakhalinsk) Direct reporting: 138th Independent MRR (Magadan): T-55, 1 bn BMP-1, 2 bns BTR-70, 12 D-30 1101st Independent MRR (Dolinsk): T-72, 1 bn BMP-2, 2 bns BTR-70, 12 2S1 264th Artillery Bde (Solovevka): 54 2S36 567th Independent Howitzer Rgt (Yuzhno Sakhalinsk): 36 D-30, 36 2S5 204th Artillery Rgt (Petropavlovsk-Kamchakty): 36 S-23, 36 2S19 460th Independent AT Rgt (Yuzhno Sakhalinsk): 48 BS-3, 24 MTLB w/AT-6 31st Anti-Aircraft Missile Bde (Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk): SA-10 75th Missile Bde (Yuzhno Sakhalinsk): SS-23 316th Independent Engineer-Sapper Rgt (Yuzhno Sakhalinsk) 22nd "Krasnodar-Harbin" Motor-Rifle Division (Chapaevka) - 211th MRR (Dolinovka): T-74, BTR-70, 12 D-30 - 246th MRR (Rodygino): T-74, BTR-70, 12 D-30 - 304th MRR (Chapaevka): T-74, BMP-2, 12 D-30 - 112th Tank Rgt (Chapaevka): T-74, BMP-2, 12 2S1 - 59th Indedpendent Tank Bn (Chapaevka): T-74 - 996th Artillery Rgt (Chapaevka): 36 2A36, 18 BM-21 - 1006th Anti-Aircraft Missile Rgt (Chapaevka): SA-11 - 784th Independent Missile Bn: 4 FROG-7 - 309th Independent Recon Bn (Chapaevka): T-74, BMP-2 - 765th Independent Engineer Bn 33rd Motor-Rifle Division (Khomutovo) - 377th MRR (Dolinsk): T-72, BTR-60, 6 SU-130, 12 D-30 - 465th MRR (Aniva): T-72, BMP-1, 6 SU-130, 12 D-30 - 389th MRR (Dachnoye): T-72, BTR-60, 6 SU-130, 12 D-30, 6 D-44 - 192nd TR (Aniva): T-72, BMP-1, 12 D-30 - 97th Independent Tank Bn (Aniva): T-72 - 989th Artillery Rgt (Aniva): 24 D-20, 12 D-30, 12 BM-21 - U/I Anti-Aircraft Missile Rgt (Dolinsk): SA-6 - U/I Independent Missile Bn (Aniva): 4 FROG-7 - 88th Independent Recon Bn (Listvenichnvi): BMP-1 - 162th Independent Engineer Bn (Listvenichnvi) 79th 'Lyuban-Katowice-Donbas' Motor-Rifle Division (Leonidova) - 157th MRR (Pobedino): T-34/85, BTR-60, 9 M-30 - 396th MRR (Leonidova): T-34/85, trucks, 9 M-30 - 398th MRR (Gastello): T-34/85, BMP-3, 18 2S1 - 214th TR (Leonidova): T-55, BMP-3, 12 M-30 - 98th Independent Tank Bn (Leonidova): T-55 - 284th Artillery Rgt (Leonidova): 18 A-19, 12 D-1, 12 BM-21 - 1228th Anti-Aircraft Artillery Rgt (Pobedino): S-60 - U/I Independent Missile Bn (Leonidova): 3 FROG-7 - 124th Independent Recon Bn (Leonidova)" PT-76, BRDM-2 - 43rd Independent Engineer Bn (Leonidova) 25th Army Corps (Petropavlovsk-Kamchatka) Direct reporting: 1st Arctic Mechanized Bde 2nd Arctic Mechanized Bde 921st Artillery Rgt (Nagorny): 36 2S5, 18 D-20 280th Independent "Ussuri" Engineer Rgt (Anadyr) 87th Motor-Rifle Division (Petropavlovsk-Kamchatka) - 257th Guards MRR: T-55, BTR-60, 6 SU-130, 9 M-30 - 1378th MRR: trucks, 9 D-44, no tanks - 1328th MRR: trucks, 9 D-44, no tanks - 1496th TR: T-55, BTR-50, 12 M-30 - 277th Artillery Rgt: 12 M-46, 18 M-30, 12 BM-21 - U/I Anti-Aircraft Artillery Rgt: 37mm - U/I Independent Missile Bn: 3 FROG-3 - 226th Independent Recon Bn: PT-76, BTR-40 - 357th Independent Engineer Bn 99th Motor-Rifle Division (Anadyr) - 1323rd MRR (Anadyr): T-55, MTLB, 9 D-44 - 1324th MRR (Anadyr): T-55, MTLB, 9 D-44 - 1326th MRR: T-55, MTLB, 9 D-44 - 1327th MRR (Anadyr): T-55, MTLB, 9 D-44 - 1003rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Bn: SA-11 - U/I Independent Missile Bn: 4 SS-21 - 618th Independent Recon Bn: PT-76, MTLB - 20th Independent Engineer Bn 18th M-G Artillery Division (Iturup) - 46th MG-Arty Rgt (Kunashir) - 49th MG-Arty Rgt (Lagunov, Iturup) - 484th MG-Arty Rgt (Iturup): 2 fortress bns, mobile bn - 601st MG-Arty Rgt (Iturup): 2 fortress bns, mobile bn - 605th MG-Arty Rgt (Iturup): 2 fortress bns, mobile bn - 209th Anti-Aircraft Missile Bn (Iturup) - 110th Independent Tank Bn (Iturup): T-72 - 264th Independent Mobile Bn (Kunashir): T-72, BMP-2 - 1114th Independent Engineer Bn (Iturup) Let me know if you want the air side.
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01-04-2010, 05:47 PM
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Hi Chico, Glad to see you back. I'd love to see the air side if you don't mind.
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01-04-2010, 08:43 PM
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On the U.S. side, we have:
159th Tactical Fighter Wing (LAANG) NAS New Orleans, LA Shemya AFB, AK 122nd TFS 18 F-15A 110th TFS 18 F-15A 343rd Tactical Fighter Wing Eielson AFB, AK 11th TASS 18 A-10A 18th TFS 18 A-10A 25th TASS 18 OV-10A 21st Tactical Fighter Wing Elmendorf AFB, AK 43rd TFS 18 F-15A 54th TFS 18 F-15A det 1 F-15A Galena AS, AK det 2 F-15A King Salmon AS, AK 616th Tactical Airlift Group Elmendorf AFB, AK 17th TAS 12 C-130H det 1 4 C-12 176th Composite Wing (AKANG) Kulis ANGB, AK 144th TAS 12 C-130H 168th ARS 8 KC-135R Eielson AFB, AK 962d AWCS 3 E-3C Elmendorf AFB, AK 939th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Wing (peacetime HQ Portland IAP, OR) Elmendorf AFB, AK 71st ARRS 12 HH-60G Elmendorf AFB, AK 210th ARRS (AKANG) 3/6 HC-130P/MH-60G Kulis ANGB, AK 304th ARRS (AFRES) 6/6 HC-130H/HH-60G (Portland IAP, OR) Shemya AFB, AK 6th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing Eielson AFB, AK 24th SRS 2/1/4 KC/TC/RC-135 Eielson AFB, AK det 1 3 RC-135S Cobra Ball Shemya AFB, AK 141st Aerial Refueling Wing Fairchild AFB, WA Shemya AFB, AK 116th ARS 8 KC-135E Shemya AFB, AK and the Soviets have... Air defense is provided by elements of the PVO's 11th Air Army, based out of Khabarovsk. It has in the area: 308th Fighter Rgt PVO (Sovetskaya Gavan', Primorskiy Kray): MiG-23MLD 387th Fighter Rgt PVO (Burevestnik, Iturup): MiG-23MLD 24th PVO Division (Petropavlovsk): - 865th Fighter Rgt PVO (Yelizovo, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatka): MiG-31 - U/I SAM Brigade 40th PVO Division (Dolinsk): - 777th Fighter Rgt PVO (Matrosovo, Sakhalin): Su-15TM - 365th Fighter Rgt PVO (Sokol airfield, Dolinsk): MiG-31 - 528th Fighter Rgt PVO (Leonidovo, Sakhalin): Su-27 On the attack air side, things are less defined - Far Eastern TVD has been in action for almost 2 years nonstop by the time the Alaska operation kicks off, and the augmentees from the rest of the USSR returned to their home bases when war broke out in the west. Tactical air would come from the 1st Air Army in Khabarovsk: (starting locations are here, what their location & condition is by the time the Alaska op kicks off hasn't been worked out yet). 7th Guards Independent Shturmovik Rgt (Galenki): Su-25 56th Recon Rgt (Varfolomeyevka): MiG-25RB, Su-24MR) 187th Independent Shturmovik Rgt (Chernigovka): Su-25) 257th Independent Mixed Rgt (Khabarovsk) An-12, An-26, Mi-8T 293rd Recon Rgt (Vozzhayevka, Belogorsk district): Su-17M3R, MiG-25 799th Recon Rgt (Varfolomeyevka): Su-24MR unknown ECM sqn. (Khabarovsk): Su-24PP, Su-24MP 20th Fighter Division (Druzhba) - 216th Fighter Rgt (Kalinovka, near Khabarovsk): Su-27 - 404th Fighter Rgt (Orlovka): MiG-29 - 821st Fighter Rgt (Spassk-Dalniy): MiG-23MLD 33rd "Khinganskaya" Fighter-Bomber Division (Pereyaslavka) - 22nd Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Birofeld): Su-17 - 26th Guards Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Uchastok): Su-17M3 - 229th Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Birofeld): Su-17M - 300th Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Pereyaslavka): MiG-27 40th Fighter Division (Belogorsk) - 41st Fighter Rgt (Orlovka): MiG-29 - unknown Fighter Rgt (Belogorsk): 83rd Fighter-Bomber Division (Pereyaslavka-Verino) - 42nd Bomber Rgt (Pereyaslavka [Verino]): Su-24) - 277th "Mlavskiy" Bomber Rgt (Khurba [Komsomolsk-na-Amure]): Su-24 - 302nd Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Pereyaslavka): Su-17M3, converting to Su-24 303rd "Smolensk" Fighter-Bomber Division (Ussuri) - 18th Guards "Vitebsk" Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Galenki): MiG-27D/M - 224th Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Ozernaya Pad' [Kremovo]): MiG-27 - 523rd "Orscha" Fighter-Bomber Rgt (Vozdvizhenka): Su-17M4 Long range transports from the 14th Transport Division (Aeroflot), from Irkutsk: -1st MVD Transport Regiment (50 IL-76MD) -1st Aeroflot Transport Regiment (45 IL-76M) -3rd Aeroflot Transport Regiment (45 IL-76MD) There could also be long-range bombers from both Long Range Aviation (equivalent to SAC) or Naval Aviation available. also, we had a discussion a few months back about the Alaska campaign. You might want to check it out, folks had some good ideas! http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=747
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01-05-2010, 05:34 AM
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Actually ... Did the DC group do a study on what refineries would still be up and running to produce all the avgas needed to fly the jets? I am curious as to what oilfields and refineries and the techs to run it will come from?
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01-07-2010, 06:58 PM
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Here what the US Army Vehcile book had
9th U.S. Army Current Location: U.S. and Canadian Pacific Northwest U.S. X Corps 10th Infantry Division (Mountain) A prewar regular division stationed at Fort Drum, New York. The division was placed on alert in early October of 1996 and on 1Novembr 1996 began to deploy to Norway by air. The division entered combat against Soviet troops in the Bardufoss area in mid-November, and in a series of costly holding engagements blunt4 the Soviet drive toward Narvik, gaining time for additional Norwegian and NATO reserves to deploy in the north. In March of 1997 the survivors of the division were withdrawn from the front lines to regroup and absorb replacements. In July the division redeployed by air to Fort Greely, Alaska, Where it joined the 1st and 2nd infantry Brigades (Arctic Recon) (Alaska National Guard) to form the X U.S. Cops. Throughout summer and fall, the division fought a series of successful holding actions in the vicinity of Forts Wainwright and Greely against Soviet army mechanized forces. In 1998 the division spearheads X U.S. Corps' counter offensive. By March the division had captured Fairbanks, and in early April elements of the division, in conjunction with 2nd Infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon) (Alaska National Guard) had isolated Anchorage, severing the most important Soviet logistical links with forces further south. As both sides' logistical situations deteriorated, combat wound down 20 a series of local action’s aimed mostly at securing t he limited food growing areas. Subordination: X U.S. Corps Current Location: Pacific Northwest Manpower: 1000 Tanks 2 LAV-75 1st Infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon) An Alaskan National Guard brigade, the brigade came into federal service on 3 July 1996, and assumed responsibility for local security and long-range recon patrols along the Bering Strait. Throughout the last half of 1996 and the first half of 1997, the brigade mounted aggressive deep patrols across t he Bering Strait into Soviet territory and fought numinous small actions with Soviet arctic forces. On June of 1997 the brigade repulsed a number of Soviet commando raids across the strait, but it was forced to withdraw westward after Soviet arctic mechanized units crossed to the U.S. side. The brigade abandoned Anchorage in July and withdrew to Fort Wainwright where it came under command of the newly formed X V.S. Corps. For the rest of 1997 the brigade held off numerous Soviet attacks on the X Corps' lodgment area, and in early 1998 it participated in the corps' counteroffensive. In March the brigade participated in the recapture of Fairbanks and in April drove west to Kayukak, cutting the Soviet direct supply line across the Bering Strait. As the logistical situation continued to deteriorate in the north, the brigade dispersed into small self sufficient hunting1raiding parties that continue to range along both sides of the straits. Subordination: X U.S. Corps Current Location: Alaska Manpower 400 Tanks: 0 2nd infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon) An Alaskan National Guard brigade, The brigade came into federal service on 3 July 1996 as the 207th Infantry Group (Scout), and was redesignated the2nd Infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon) on 5 July 1996. The brigade assumed responsibility for local security in the Aleutians in August and remained there until June of 1997. At that time the brigade returned to Anchorage, and then moved north overland to join the 1st Infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon). In July the brigade retreated east to Fort Greely and upon arrival cane under the command of the newly formed X U.S. Corps. For the rest of 1997, the brigade held off numerous Soviet attacks on the X Corps' lodgment area, and in early 1998 participated in the corps' counteroffensive. In March the brigade participated in the recapture of Fairbanks, and In April it drove south with 10th infantry Division (Mountain) to the Anchorage area. In l a t ~ 1998, the brigade left the Anchorage area and drove southeast toward Juneau. On 25 December 1998 the brigade, considerably aided by local partisans, recaptured Juneau by assault, suffering heavy casualties in the process, the brigade then took over local security for the Juneau logistical hub. Subordination: X U. S. Corps Current Location: Alaska Manpower: 300 Tanks: 0 VIII U.S. Corps 47th Infantry Division A National Guard division consisting of the 1st (Minnesota NG), 347th (Iowa NG), and the 66th (Illinois NG) brigades, The division came in to federal service on 1 November 1996 and began deploying by air and sea lo Fort Richardson, Alaska where they relieved the 6th Infantry Division (Light) of Internal security duties. In July of 1997ovtmsts of the division were attacked h Soviet Spetsnaz units and shortly there after by elements of two mechanized brigades. The division was pushed southeast in heavy fighting and retreated across the Canadian border where it was reinforced by elements of the Canadian Forces. The appearance of additional Soviet troops, coupled with limited tactical nuclear strikes, inflected heavy casualties in the division, and by mid-1998 it had fallen back to northern Washington. The deteriorating logistical situation of the Soviet forces, multiple by the attacks on their rear areas by the X U.S. Cops from the Fort Wainwright (east-central Alaska) region and the arrival of the 104th Infantry Division, halted the, Soviet attack. At that time the division reverted to a defensive role and became responsible for internal security in the Washington-Oregon region. Subordination: VIII U.S Corps Current Location: Pacific Northwest Manpower 5000 Tanks: 0 104th Infantry Division (Light) The division was formed at Vancouver, Washington on203uly 1998 by re-designation of the 104th Training Division (U.S. Army Reserve). Upon activation, the division came under command of VIII U.S. Corps, and on 2 August 1998 entered combat against Soviet forces attacking the Fort Lawton area from the north. By late August, the situation was stabilized and the division was withdrawn from the front line to take over internal security duties in the Montana-Idaho region. Subordination: VIII U.S, Corps Current Location: Pacific Northwest Manpower 4000 Tanks: 1 M728 CEV 1 Stingray 1 M60A3 1 M1A2
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01-07-2010, 08:23 PM
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I threw together a Southern Alaska/Western Canada/Northern Washington situation map from my map database. Thought it might help the discussion.
http://games.juhlin.com/files/ak_can_pacnw_forces.jpg Notes Red = Sov Blue = US/Can/Defected Sov Yellow = Marauders The infantry division in Seattle is the 47th (since the map is dynamic sometimes you cant read some of the info.) The 1st Arctic Brigade is colocated with the 10th Mountain.
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01-08-2010, 12:50 AM
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I missed that it is colocated with the US 2nd Infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon). It, like the 41st MRD, has defected . On my map when you click on a unit, an in browser popup shows name, strength (men/afv/helicopters etc) and collocated units (which are clickable as well). Default is for the larger unit (manpower) to be shown, but that can be switched to higher rank (Brigade < Division < Corps < Front) since most higher commands are collocated with units. Additional notes. The Soviet 120 MRD is also colocated with the 76th (together 6000 men strong). The 1st IB last know location is Wales AK. I forgot to scroll over to the left and up to show it. (I felt the map was getting too large). My "print screen" is not functioning now (need a reboot) so I will fix it tomorrow. Last edited by kato13; 01-08-2010 at 01:15 AM.
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01-08-2010, 07:11 PM
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Updated the map to include the US 1st Inf Bdg (Arctic) in the very upper left.
http://games.juhlin.com/files/ak_can_pacnw_forces.jpg
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01-09-2010, 09:37 PM
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The Canadians are coming
Ok here an overall campaign setting that I am working on for Alaska
The Canadian Government order the remains of Canadian Forces in Beaver Creek to invade Alaska a size the Alaska Pipeline and oil fields Phase One - A small Special Forces Team with Canadian Ranger Support make contact with the remains of the Alaskan Government and bring a small delegation to Beaver Creek to talk to the remains of Canadian Government led the Minster of National Defence. The Alaskan State Government agrees to become a Canadian Protectorate with self governing powers and Canadian overseeing its defence and security in exchange for oil Phase Two - the Canadian Forces launch operations to retake the pipeline; they find the Prudhoe Bay Oil Field abandon except for a small Russian technical/security team which is quickly surrenders with the promise of food. However the Canadian Forces find Elements of the 10th Mountain Division around the port of Valdez, however with the arrivial and Canadian Troops and the 1st and 2nd Artric Brigrades(who are now considered Canadian troops), the 10th Moutians quickly abonded the port and move to Fairbanks. The Canadain Commander sucessful make the Officer in charge belive that this is the beginning of a drive to liberate Archorage Phase Three – Canadian Steamships Tankers begin to ferry oil from Valdez by sea to Prince Rupert, where is shipped via rail to Fort MccMurray Alberta for processing and storage Current Situation 10th Moutian Division – The Divison is at a lost of what is now to do, while the commander declare for CIVGOV it has become apparent that CIVGOV has no troops to send to it aide and MILGOV is focused on Teaxs and Calforina. Since th Canadians have not shown any intrest in moving into the Fairbanks he has no choice and stay put and wait for futher orders. Soviet Enclave Archorage – The Soviet are in dire straits with there logistical lines cut and the disgratation of the USSR they troop have two options one is stay in place and try to find and way home or surrender to the US X Corps. The Divison is have a lot of displine problems and they are unware of the recent change between the US and Canada Speical Service Force – This unit had about 5000 troops at the begin of Twilight War, it was deployed from CFB Petawawa at the start of Alaska made up of Airborne and mechanized elements is was keep in reserve durring the opening of the Alaska battle, however is reinforced US X Corps when in retreat across the boarder, as it advance back into Alaska is was it fought hard and was down to 2500 as the war reached a stalemate. It was then withdrawn back to Beaver Creek to rest and refit. There is given a small ammount of reinforcement , reservist and zombies, and a unit of Canadian Rangers, and remain of the JTF Squadron now more or less a platoon. It was here they recived there orders to began for alone advance agianst US and Soveit Troops. It is cureently broken down into several elements that oversee the security pipeline through a seris of fortifed strong points 1st Infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon): This unit is located in the port Valdez as per the Canadian - Alaska agreement, Alaska oversea the oil shipments and remain in control of the oil terminal. 2nd infantry Brigade (Arctic Recon): The 2nd has been split to provide security to the oil field and security to Juneau which now serves a major supply point for a fleet of tugs and bring supplies in from Canada. With the help of Canadian Adviser a new government is being set up along with a training school for Alaskan troops. CSIS has also opened a field office.
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01-12-2010, 01:55 PM
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Personally I do not see the 1 & 2nd Infantry Brigades (Artic Recon) switching their alliegance to Canada from the US, when US forces overseas still are loyal to Milgov (or in the case of those units in the Balkans to Civgov). I think a more likely force for the Canadian Forces to have available in the area would be 38, 39, and 41 Canadian Brigade Groups brought up to strength with conscripts, as well as recall of the secondary reserve, sometime beginning in late 1996, and early 1997. They would probably be structured as light infantry brigades because Canada doesn't have the war reserve to equip them as heavier formations, and it's unlikely that by this point the industrial mobilization of Canada's war industries would be able to provide sufficient vehicles to fully mount them as a mechanized infantry. Possibly they could be mounted as motorized infantry on stake body trucks with some tactical vehicles available to perform motorized recce. However, light infantry is probably the best organizational option given the lack of a well developed road network in the Pacific Northwest so support heavier formations, and the relative ease in which they could be mobilized, conscripts trained, and small arms produced.
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