POMCUS and ReForGer

[Adm.Lee]

Spinning off of from the "Dependents" thread...

What always got to me was the POMCUS seemed to be geared for Armored Divisions, while none of the Divisions that were suppose to come from the mainland immediately had all of their components actives or had Brigade posted forwards already...

So it seems regardless if it was by designed or because how a military conflict would developed in Germany, it seems to me that very few US Divisions would have made the transition from the US to Germany intact. The exception of these would be the 82nd and 101st Division if they were transferred to Europe and not elsewhere.

I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean?

AFAIK, the POMCUS sites were set up for 5 divisions (2nd Armored, 1st Mech, 4th Mech, 5th Mech, 1st Cav) and an ACR (3rd). That's all of the active divisions that were supposed to go to Germany, using air transport for personnel. Two of them, I think, had forward brigades (from 2AD and 1MD) in Europe and only 5 MD had an NG roundout brigade (or did 1CD, too?). Except for those NG brigades, all of those divisions (all mech or armored), were active-duty, and supposed to be ready to go. Are you saying they were less than ready?

Note on sources: I'm using GDW's "Battle for Germany" OB, since that's right next to my PC and I'm gearing up for a PBEM of that.

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Adm.Lee

Spinning off of from the "Dependents" thread...



I'm sorry, I don't see what you mean?

AFAIK, the POMCUS sites were set up for 5 divisions (2nd Armored, 1st Mech, 4th Mech, 5th Mech, 1st Cav) and an ACR (3rd). That's all of the active divisions that were supposed to go to Germany, using air transport for personnel. Two of them, I think, had forward brigades (from 2AD and 1MD) in Europe and only 5 MD had an NG roundout brigade (or did 1CD, too?). Except for those NG brigades, all of those divisions (all mech or armored), were active-duty, and supposed to be ready to go. Are you saying they were less than ready?

Note on sources: I'm using GDW's "Battle for Germany" OB, since that's right next to my PC and I'm gearing up for a PBEM of that.

The 1st CD had a roundout brigade, the 155th Armored Brigade of the Mississippi NG...the POMCUS plans had the School Brigade from Fort Benning (the 197th MIB) as replacing the 155th.

POMCUS also had two sets of equipment for the Field Artillery Brigades supporting III Corps.

[Adm.Lee]

Originally Posted by dragoon500ly

The 1st CD had a roundout brigade, the 155th Armored Brigade of the Mississippi NG...the POMCUS plans had the School Brigade from Fort Benning (the 197th MIB) as replacing the 155th.

POMCUS also had two sets of equipment for the Field Artillery Brigades supporting III Corps.

Thank you. I figured there were corps assets, too, they just don't show up in that game. Those were also active-duty formations, I assume?

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Adm.Lee

Thank you. I figured there were corps assets, too, they just don't show up in that game. Those were also active-duty formations, I assume?

Based out of Fort Sill, Oklahoma. Should have been the 75th FAB with 3 battalions of SP 155 and 1 of SP 203 and the 212th FAB with 2 bns each of SP 155/SP203.

[Panther Al]

Hrmmm... From the looks of the units involved, 5 decent to good divisions and one effing outstanding regiment, it appears that the reforger/pomcus combo was a III Corps show for the most part, for those that know, was that the case or?

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

Hrmmm... From the looks of the units involved, 5 decent to good divisions and one effing outstanding regiment, it appears that the reforger/pomcus combo was a III Corps show for the most part, for those that know, was that the case or?

POMCUS was III Corps all the way...2 understrength armored divisions, a full strength mech division and two understrength mech divisions...at leastuntil 2AD and 1MID linked up with their forward deployed brigades....as for that 3ACR bunch...to be sure they were the effing outstanding unit in REFORGER...but that was because the 2ACR was already in country, kicking ass and taking names!!!

LOL!!!!

[Panther Al]

Granted those 2ACR guys never blew up their own motorpool, after all, thems that can, do, thems that can't, teach...

So, why was it they decided that the 2nd couldn't be trusted with the heavy stuff and given hummers eh?

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

Granted those 2ACR guys never blew up their own motorpool, after all, thems that can, do, thems that can't, teach...

So, why was it they decided that the 2nd couldn't be trusted with the heavy stuff and given hummers eh?

Somebody had to teach the XVIII Airborne Corps how to do it right!

[Adm.Lee]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

Hrmmm... From the looks of the units involved, 5 decent to good divisions and one effing outstanding regiment, it appears that the reforger/pomcus combo was a III Corps show for the most part, for those that know, was that the case or?

Of the POMCUS stuff, 1 MD was to go to VII Corps, and 4 MD to V Corps. I've seen that in other wargames, too. The other 3 divisions and ACR were for III Corps.