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Old 09-08-2011, 08:06 PM
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The internet archive has posted non-stop tv footage of 9/11 of 19 different TV stations footage (From sources across the US as well as Russia, China, Mexico, Iraq and more) from 9/11/01 8:00AM EDT till 9/17/01 in handy 30 Sec bites.

http://www.archive.org/details/911/day/20010911#/
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I did not know this at the time. There was an American on board the International Space Station during the attack. He took some very eerie pictures.

http://news.yahoo.com/astronaut-in-s...e-of-9-11.html

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as an Englishman seeing all these 9/11 reactions is kind of odd.
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At the risk of offending my countrymen, I feel like the media's need to capture attention to generate sales of ad time, combined with the particularly American unwillingness to look away from things that we say horrify us, is on the verge of creating a fetishistic attitude towards 9-11. The attacks on the World Trade Center were indeed terrible events. That much said, we're giving al-Qaeda exactly what they want: a long-lasting feeling of fear and anger. From the standpoint of psychological warfare, the enemy is trouncing us with our willing--nay, eager--complicity.
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A very good point: What I found most interesting about it all is less the repeat of what some of us watched live on TV, but watching the reactions of the media. For example, I watched the first hour of the Beeb, and it was interesting how, even though they saw the second plane, took minutes to accept that was a second plane and report it as such. This time around, having lived the past ten years and dealing with the leftovers give a different perspective on the whole thing.
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At the risk of offending my countrymen, I feel like the media's need to capture attention to generate sales of ad time, combined with the particularly American unwillingness to look away from things that we say horrify us, is on the verge of creating a fetishistic attitude towards 9-11.
I agree. And if you look at history, you will see this pattern repeated time after time. THe Lincoln assasintation and grieving took from april 15, 1865 to May 6. Granted a lot of that time was needed for transportation, but still.

The JFK assasination and grieving took four days. The discussions still re-verberate.

Pearl Harbor attack grieving could be said to last until the end of WWII.

The American Civil War is still being discussed and re-hashed 150!! years later.

It seems that we Americans will fixate on a historical happening that is negative and dwell on it seeingly forever. I guess it the the antithisis of our normal outlook of tomorrow is a better day, or Go West Young Man, or Put a man on the moon and return him to earth safely by the end of the decade or Remember the Alamo or THe Maine....

We tend to be a forward looking, optomisitc bunch... but I guess the fanatical obcession with negative events is the price we pay.

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I was born back in 1980 (July), my Father was in the RAF and made sergeant before he did his time. I grew up with terrorism, constant attacks and violence to a point where British servicemen where not allowed to wear uniform in civvy street!

When you live with the reality of terror, from birth, you tend to develop a thick skin. One of the reasons the 7/7 attacks in london don't have anything near as much of a resonance in our culture as 9/11.

Now I know somebody is going to come up with a cheap line like "But we lost 3000 people, you didn't lose that many!". Numbers are essentialy meaningless over time. America was hit once and went crazy, the UK was hit, on a constant basis for over FIVE decades and the violence in NI is still ongoing.

I was watching some of the 9/11 stuff on TV. I warn you know,the following is controversial so if your easily offended don't read.

9/11 took out over 3000 people, conservative reports estimate that double that many civilians have died in Afghanistan. I felt that there was a blatant need for blood after 9/11, which was most likely the desired goal of the attacks in the first place.

10 years on, what has beeen achieved? I think bin laden died laughing because he won this war. Public opinion in other nations regarding America is at an all-time low, America has been dragged into a ten year conflict that has cost the lives of over 1600 US troops and 380 British.

This is the legacy of 9/11.
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