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10-16-2011, 04:48 AM
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OT: Non-human primates and firearms
I am a long time advocate of giving non-human primates human rights, or at least some of them. When you look into the eyes of a chimp, bonobo, orang or gorilla you can tell there is a person in there. A really weird (from our point of view) person admittedly, but they have their own complicated lives, wants and desires.
Sadly they are probably not long for this world, due entirely to us and the damage we cause them and their environment. It is for these reasons that the following video made me smile. I know it's not real, but I wish it was. Wild chimps with AKs and ammo would be cool. Yes they would probably just end up shooting each other. No they probably couldn't be taught the importance of maintaining their weapons properly. But I love the concept all the same. Boy would the poachers get a big surprise! 
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10-16-2011, 09:12 AM
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 Giving a chimp a loaded weapon!?!?! Although he sure cleared the crowd rather quickly! I forsee a future in riot control!! 
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10-16-2011, 09:15 AM
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Targan, I figured you always were a tree-hugger the moment I saw your avatar of a 'roo with a beer!
 But could this be done? Imagine...a demented mad scientist with his own army of AK-wielding, jabbering primates with transmitters grafted onto their primitive brains. It'd look like something out of a 50's scifi movie....or maybe a Twilight 2000 scenario perhaps? Mad Scientist: "Operation Gorilla Storm has BEGUN! Go forth my Primates, and CONQUER! MUWAHAHAHHAHAHAHH!!!!!" Monkeys: "Oooh oooh ooh oooh Eeeek EEEEEK!!!" And if you dont' believe animals can be taught, I present the following commercials as proof!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAGLurY7IAY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqoDVr9jtCg The latter commercial is certainly another idea...rocket and machine gun armed birdies, just imagine.... Hunters: "Oh shit, DUCK!" 
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10-16-2011, 12:21 PM
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I remember asking in one of these forums, "What stage in hominid development would out ancestors have made usable soldiers?" At that point could they be taught to use a firearm responsibly and take care of it? Be taught fire and movement? Be taught martial arts? Be taught anything more than bashing someone with a club?
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10-16-2011, 12:27 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7XuXi3mqYM
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10-16-2011, 12:44 PM
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10-16-2011, 12:48 PM
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Reminds me of the original Planet of the Apes films where the apes, specifically the Gorillas, were armed with rifles.
It works as an idea for a game though - you just have to justify why the apes are now intelligent enough to use firearms. For example I ran a Morrow Project inspired game a few years ago where Alien invaders were breeding (and mentally enhancing) apes to use them as foot soldiers in their war against the humans.
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10-16-2011, 05:38 PM
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It's been done. Army Basic is full of knuckle draggers who can neither keep themselves clean nor execute any instruction to an acceptable standard. Some are hairier than others.
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10-17-2011, 08:40 AM
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10-17-2011, 07:27 PM
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10-17-2011, 10:02 PM
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Having said that. I'll say again, the premise of Hell Island is pretty interesting for what we are talking about here.
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