And where did the United Nations go?

[WallShadow]

I seem to recall a few mentions of the UN amongst the threads, but has the fate, disposition, and locale of the United Nations officials and personnel ever been really clarified?

I mean we've got the big building on the East River in NYC, right across from the Roosevelt Island enclave and just couple of blocks east of Times Square. Did the diplomats just up and leave after TDM? How did they get out? Personal bodyguards or US-assigned security staff?

[weswood]

Hopefully the cannibals got them.

[Tegyrius]

I'd expect a lot of them were recalled (or bugged out without instructions from their respective governments) once tactical nukes started flying in Europe and NYC started looking like a strategic target.

- C.

[Jason Weiser]

RDF Sourcebook has something to say on the matter:

On page 3 it says...

"Relations between Israel and Syria deteriorated rapidly.A Demilitarized zone(DMZ)had been established in the Golan Heights following the '87 war.This DMZ was occupied by a UN Peacekeeping Force. When the UN General Assembly fell apart in June of 1995, these troops were left out on a limb."

So, one can assume once things begin to go down the long slide of doom in China culminating in the August invasion, the UN loses relevancy and ambassadorial staffs are called home until what's left is a Third World debating society that drifts away as the chances for a negotiated peace become slimmer and slimmer.

[Raellus]

I've had a couple of Aussie players who wanted to play Australian PCs in a Poland-based campaign create characters who were UN troops abandoned on Cyprus when the baloon went up that somehow made their way to central Europe. It was a bit of a stretch but considering the famous story of the Korean teenager that ended up in the Wermacht on the Normandy beaches just in time for D-Day, just about anything's possible.

If you're unfamiliar with the story, this Korean kid was press-ganged into a Japanese labor unitin around '38 or so. He was captured by the Soviets during their brief [Manchurian] border war with the Japanese army in '39. He was then pressed into service in the Red Army and subsequently captured by the Germans when they invaded the USSR in '41. He was then placed into a Wehrmacht Ost battalion and sent to France in '44, where he was subsequently captured by an Allied unit. What a trip!

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I've had a couple of Aussie players who wanted to play Australian PCs in a Poland-based campaign create characters who were UN troops abandoned on Cyprus when the baloon went up that somehow made their way to central Europe. It was a bit of a stretch but considering the famous story of the Korean teenager that ended up in the Wermacht on the Normandy beaches just in time for D-Day, just about anything's possible.

If you're unfamiliar with the story, this Korean kid was press-ganged into a Japanese labor unitin around '38 or so. He was captured by the Soviets during their brief [Manchurian] border war with the Japanese army in '39. He was then pressed into service in the Red Army and subsequently captured by the Germans when they invaded the USSR in '41. He was then placed into a Wehrmacht Ost battalion and sent to France in '44, where he was subsequently captured by an Allied unit. What a trip!

There were like 5 of them, an entire squad, but yeah, that was a real mind-scrambler. I wonder what became of them? I'd imagine if they made it back to Korea they were likely called up for service in '49 and ended up fighting for or against the US (again).

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by Jason Weiser

RDF Sourcebook has something to say on the matter:

On page 3 it says...

"Relations between Israel and Syria deteriorated rapidly.A Demilitarized zone(DMZ)had been established in the Golan Heights following the '87 war.This DMZ was occupied by a UN Peacekeeping Force. When the UN General Assembly fell apart in June of 1995, these troops were left out on a limb."

So, one can assume once things begin to go down the long slide of doom in China culminating in the August invasion, the UN loses relevancy and ambassadorial staffs are called home until what's left is a Third World debating society that drifts away as the chances for a negotiated peace become slimmer and slimmer.

Thanks for posting that. I knew there was a quote somewhere in one of the books to that affect, but the source of it has been bugging me for ages (I thought it was in Armies of the Night...)

The UN has a significant presence in Switzerland, so it's possible that a decision may have been taken to temporarily relocate the General Assembly from New York, which is in a belligerent nation, to Geneva, which is in a non belligerent, after the US entered the War (but presumably before the nuclear exchanges escalated to the point where such a move would not be logistically possible).

Are there any references to the UN in Armies of the Night?

[Ironside]

It went where the League of Nations went to . . . ?

[rcaf_777]

Originally Posted by Jason Weiser

"Relations between Israel and Syria deteriorated rapidly.A Demilitarized zone(DMZ)had been established in the Golan Heights following the '87 war.This DMZ was occupied by a UN Peacekeeping Force. When the UN General Assembly fell apart in June of 1995, these troops were left out on a limb."

I think is would a shell of a force, Canada had a good size contingent on that UN mission mostly Supply and Manitenace folks, I could see any of the major nations that have troops on UN keeping them on mission once the bullets start flying in Europe between the super powers

[Olefin]

I dont think that South America is going to be that heavily damaged outside of the oil regions - for one what is written in the canon doesnt really make it sound like South America took much of anything outside of the oil producing areas of Venezuela.

Paraguay could indeed be a leading contender because there is no reason at all to hit the country - its resource poor and agrarian. However you would think any relocation would have to have some kind of reliable access to the sea.