China First Carrier heads into Japan dispute.

[Cdnwolf]

http://news.yahoo.com/china-carrier-...055903076.html

[Targan]

Years ago I heard that China bought HMAS Melbourne for scrapping but instead kept the vesel intact to train it's future carrier-based pilots how to take off and land on aircraft carriers. Kind of leaves a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by Targan

Years ago I heard that China bought HMAS Melbourne for scrapping but instead kept the vesel intact to train it's future carrier-based pilots how to take off and land on aircraft carriers. Kind of leaves a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Yeah. Pardon my French but I cannot believe anyone fucking well bought the whole "Oh we're buying these big-stick, power-projecting ships that first-world navies can field with impunity, but we can buy prebuilt...just to scrap! Yes, yes, of course you silly Westerners, we're not doing anything with these except making belt-clips for your cell phones and maybe a Super Lucky You! casino!"

I wonder how long 'til it's making port calls at the new PLA Naval Station in San Francisco.

[Webstral]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

Yeah. Pardon my French but I cannot believe anyone fucking well bought the whole "Oh we're buying these big-stick, power-projecting ships that first-world navies can field with impunity, but we can buy prebuilt...just to scrap! Yes, yes, of course you silly Westerners, we're not doing anything with these except making belt-clips for your cell phones and maybe a Super Lucky You! casino!"

I wonder how long 'til it's making port calls at the new PLA Naval Station in San Francisco.

It's not that bad. Yes, the presence of a Chinese carrier changes the game noticeably. Until there are at least three of them, the seas east of Taiwan will belong to the USN and allies. Even then, power projection across the Pacific is a long ways off. Things will come to a head with Japan first. Then we'll find out if we still have the edge.

[mikeo80]

Has anyone seen what the new Chi-Com carrier has on deck? My Google-Fu is weak today. I can not find a reference. Write it up to too many hours spent in "real life" and not enough here in T2K land.

IMHO, the F-18's from a Nimitz class would wipe whatever out. And do not forget that our CVN battle groups have Aegis ready escorts, and one (or more) Los Angles attack subs.

Yes, this is a turn for the worse. Until PRG has Nimitz class, LA class etc, etc, I think not a major deal breaker.

My $0.02

Mike

[Capt_Bowman]

At the minute, nothing officially though someone says they saw "Something" in the hangers.

They'll have J-15 (a Chinese copy of the navalised SU-27), a helo-based AEW platform based of the KA-27 I think and probably ASW platforms based off the same.

[Cdnwolf]

Originally Posted by mikeo80

Has anyone seen what the new Chi-Com carrier has on deck? My Google-Fu is weak today. I can not find a reference. Write it up to too many hours spent in "real life" and not enough here in T2K land.

IMHO, the F-18's from a Nimitz class would wipe whatever out. And do not forget that our CVN battle groups have Aegis ready escorts, and one (or more) Los Angles attack subs.

Yes, this is a turn for the worse. Until PRG has Nimitz class, LA class etc, etc, I think not a major deal breaker.

My $0.02

Mike

You forget that most of the time the CV will be within range of most land base aircraft and the Chi-Com will not be afraid to use tac nukes if they have to. (Read any of the Dale Brown novels about Chi-Com combat in that region... especially Fatal Terrain and Skymasters.)

[stg58fal]

Originally Posted by mikeo80

Has anyone seen what the new Chi-Com carrier has on deck? My Google-Fu is weak today. I can not find a reference. Write it up to too many hours spent in "real life" and not enough here in T2K land.

IMHO, the F-18's from a Nimitz class would wipe whatever out. And do not forget that our CVN battle groups have Aegis ready escorts, and one (or more) Los Angles attack subs.

Yes, this is a turn for the worse. Until PRG has Nimitz class, LA class etc, etc, I think not a major deal breaker.

My $0.02

Mike

Except for the fact that the Chinese have had both the plans and the capability to use neutron weapons on our carriers since at least partway thru the Klintoon regime. And their leaders, both military and civilian, have said at at least a few points during the last 15 years that war with the US was inevitable. Though I'd imagine it won't happen as long as we've got a simpering wimp like Obummer in charge.