How would it go wrong TODAY? (reopened - play nice)

[Haven]

Hi guys, Solz from the old forums here under a more consistent name (that i use in more places).


I am working out a new alt time line that is going to take place in CONTUS, specifically Georgia.

Couple things about this campaign.


- Going to use Tw2k13 rules
- Disregard all other timelines
- Going to be a PBEM/Post game with me as GM and buddy as player AS HIMSELF - a civilian.
- He lives in Georgia in the Atlanta area
- Starting Jan '09

So questions are:

You have about 2 years to make things go wrong.

How would you do it?
Who would be your antagonists?


After I work on my current timeline for a bit more i'll post it up, for critique but i want to know what you'd come up with.

EDIT: These are guidelines.... don't feel like you can't break some rules to get what you need.
Basically the only constants are.... some time around now or slightly in the future and he is a civilian in the Atlanta area.

[pmulcahy11b]

What, you don't watch the news?

[Targan]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

What, you don't watch the news?

I get paid to listen to the radio and watch the TV newses, eight hours per day, five days per week. I'm doing it right now. You wouldn't believe how many words I've typed in the last nine years or the vast amount of news I have stored in my brain.

[headquarters]

I `ll try my hand real quick and short:

1) terrorist attack on US soil using Nuclear weapon(s) that hit several ports /major metropolitan areas (cargo containers w nuclear devices) over a few days and also some disruption to leadership like Pres/Vice Pres knocked out and speaker unable to be found or some such leading to a situation close to the one when Reagan was shot ,only this time several people try to "shout eachother down" and arrests are made etc adding to the confusion

2) Massive chaos and panic as people flee .Many crucial posts are abandoned,countryside flooded with refugees - FEMA,national guard ,Federal agencies overloaded with emergency tasks like curbing the looting and crime ,helping everyone etc .the army is already overseas..

3) Retaliation - is promptly meted out towards those believed responsible in the form of localized nuclear strikes/conventional attacks and some not so localized.But as command is hazy different agencies/leaders attack different targets and sometimes indiscrimenately

4) Terrified leaders of other powers
( Russia,China,France,Britain,Germany ,Pakistan etc ) act with paranoia towards the "loose cannons" and try to secure some nuclear weapons facilities etc .Small nuclear exchanges take place to knock out some weapons facilities -and is responded to by some commanders from the USD as well as dictated by protocol meaning that the attacks have to be retaliated .Several of the major powers recieve crippeling hits that destroy central authority and most goverment functions

5) world economy comes to a thunderous stop,and world order is turned upside down as raw material producing countries "on the fringes"-including oil producers of course - now take a leading role.Countries that rely on foreign aid collapse .All those wars and conflicts that have been lying in wait because of the influence of the US airforce and the petromagnat syndicates (hehe) are now unrestrained and cry havoc -unleash the dogs of war all hell breaks loose in 397 locations pretty much at once.

6) fallout,famine,epidemics,violence and upheaval hit all societies except those that are removed from the modern world and still live like they did along time ago .death tolls are staggering -but it is the industrialized world that is hit the hardest.Developing countries /regions can to some extent carry on or cope .All the financial power in the "west" amounts to nothing now- but an economy based on agriculture and cottage industries will be able to hang in there - albeit more often than not repression and dictatorship take hold.

7) the nuclear exchange is limited as it is clear from early on that it has taken far less than anyone thought to topple the major powers -burning them to a radioactive ash doesnt seem necessary -so some cmndrs/leaders desist from firing or actively try to stop the shooting .meaning that there are local commanders with nuclear capacity out there in the various factions that will emerge -and that nuclear war will continue for the next few years as a part of smaller regional wars .

I dont see this taking place in more than 30-60 days ,and the PCs will get only scraps of information and confused messages .After the big breakdown news will be rumours and the pressing matters of getting food,safety and shelter will seem more important than current affairs.

[Mohoender]

Just watch the "Sum of all Fears" or "Second Civil War" .

[Marc]

Great overview description HQ! Recognize you was waiting for someone to ask you this same question!

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Targan

I get paid to listen to the radio and watch the TV newses, eight hours per day, five days per week. I'm doing it right now. You wouldn't believe how many words I've typed in the last nine years or the vast amount of news I have stored in my brain.

The reason I asked that question is because (and I have said so on the previous board) we are sliding into a real-life "T2K" scenario now. I really do believe that our global civilization has at max 30 years left -- and possibly less than ten. I'm not religious, but we are living in what many Christians would call "The End Times," in a non-religious sense -- we made this mess ourselves.

[jester]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

The reason I asked that question is because (and I have said so on the previous board) we are sliding into a real-life "T2K" scenario now. I really do believe that our global civilization has at max 30 years left -- and possibly less than ten. I'm not religious, but we are living in what many Christians would call "The End Times," in a non-religious sense -- we made this mess ourselves.

All of a sudden I feel like listening to REM, hmmm?

"Its the ennnnnnnnnnd of the world as we know it. And I feel fine."

[Haven]

This is rough and lacking details ...

But this is where i am going with this.

Influences:
Scorpion's Gate (Book - Iran and Saudi Arabia)
Syrianna (Movie - China and the Middle East Oil)
The Kingdom (Movie - about Saudi Arabia)
EMP blast over nuclear fallout - more hardship after the fact but no immediate deaths


__________________________________________________ ___________________

Twilight 2000 – RPG (alternative timeline)

Jan 2008 - President elected and Takes office.
Economy very shaky and to boost economy and balance budget the President raises taxes and cuts military spending. Slow troop withdrawals begin from Iraq and other overseas military bases. Some military base closings similar to the 1990’s and the majority of the new weapons programs are scraped or put on hold due to lack of funding.

Canadian and Mexican boarders are now more vulnerable due to lack of funding but this is nothing new to the boarder patrol.

Police and state defense spending is also cut as states struggle to balance the budget. Crime rates climb. Unemployment rises.

Anti-government groups grow in popularity nation wide as it appears another period of UN over USA begins.

Israel attacks Iran with air strikes to halt nuclear program – and is ineffective.
Iran now with a solid (anti-west) public opinion base form close ties to Iraq’s Shiite population

President at the request of the Iraqi government agrees to an 18 month pullout period
Insurgent violence surges due to US troop pullouts, but larger terrorist organizations bide their time and wait for the US to withdraw. Iraqi commanders are bought, manipulated etc into cooperation or selling of arms to all sorts of organizations. Syria and Iran’s involvement is heavily suspected.

Afghanistan – President deploys the majority of the US remaining troops from Iraq to Afghanistan switching the front from Iraq to Afghanistan

Nationalism rising in Russia and they’re getting nasty, as its former Warsaw Pact members seek to join NATO and Russia is obviously against this and consider this expansionism.
They use espionage, subversion, and political assassination by the KGB to keep the remaining former satellites in their sphere of influence.

They also manipulate the flow of oil and gas to Western Europe as a political weapon and to keep NATO and West Europe from interfering.

Taking Russia’s lead the Middle East and other OPEC members manipulate oil production to increase its costs, this backfires causing a worldwide recession.

President federalizes failing US automakers to keep them open and to provide the American public with alternative energy vehicles as gas prices soar.
Gas is scarce and expensive but few can afford a new alternative energy vehicle.

China has massive numbers of unemployed due to a world wide recession and it is pumping up its military to quell domestic unrest.
It also challenges fuel supplies in their sphere of influence, and they ramp up Nationalism to divert from their domestic problems.
“It’s those Damned Yankees for not buying our junk! And Russia for its strong arm tactics! “
They also build up their naval forces and shadow US planes and submarines in Japanese territorial waters.

China and India both want to emerge from the recession as the new economic leader of the world.
China and India begin arms race in earnest for world stage dominance.
China and India know that the next 50~100 years of technical, economic, and political dominance is at stake.
China averages 1 ‘shuttle type’ launch every month, India every other month.
China’s military sees drastic modernization.

China needing a trade partner in oil to fuel this growth finds one in Iran – China’s energy future is secure as long as there is oil in Iran and Iran sees a huge influx of modern weaponry, military advisors, and money.

Russia responding to this new threat and wanting to secure its oil pipelines (and thus its political weapon) - solidifies (reinvades) control over Georgia – NATO protests but held from meaningful action due to energy concerns.
They realize NATO is not going to respond.
The UN as usual says just words.

Russia has shattered NATO with its manipulation of gas and oil.

China takes note.

They also overthrow some nations and install puppet governments more inline with Moscow.
The Russian Federation Pact is signed (RFP) is the world calls it Warsaw Pact II.
Russian and EU sign trade agreements over oil stabilizing the EU economies at the cost of their inaction.

Defense budget cuts are for the most part reversed as the political landscape changes in the face of a very real Cold War 2.
This time with China as an additional player.

The spending provides a nice boost in the economy showing signs of recovery. The technology sector gets most of the money as the current administration prefers non-lethal/less-than-lethal and remote control options over ‘boots on the ground’. This also has the added benefit of being best for the economy.

An unknown submarine threatens a US carrier group and the carrier employs very aggressive Anti-Submarine Warfare assets, forcing a Chinese submarine to the surface, embarrassing China on the world stage.
China’s government sees this as a national security threat to their reputation in their sphere of influence and national standing and blockade Taiwan in response.

The US has no legal recourse in this matter due to Taiwan’s unique status as an unrecognized nation and is forced to sit on the sidelines.

Taiwanese military forces are reported to have attacked Chinese warships in international waters and responds with a full-scale invasion of Taiwan (to restore reputation and standing).
Obama does not fulfill Taiwan treaty obligations – suspends trade with China.
This action results in 200 US Marine deaths during pullout.
Thousands of Taiwanese are killed and the ‘rogue Chinese territory’ of Taiwan is subdued in 3 months.

Russia and the RFP broaden its reach by sending ‘military advisers’ into Cuba, Mexico, and Venezuela.

The conflict in Afghanistan spills over into Pakistan as Insurgents seek haven from US troops.
The already weakened Pakistani government fighting a loosing battle against a determined extremist Islamic insurgency collapses and goes into exile.
A small US peacekeeping force moves in to prevent Pakistan’s nuclear weapons from ‘falling into the wrong hands’ at the request of the ousted government and after 1 week of hard fighting is quickly withdrawn.
Quickly suppressed reports surface that the peacekeepers were too late and some of Pakistan’s arsenal is unaccounted for.

Saudi Arabia’s kingdom also collapses due to Islamic extremism. US bases in Saudi Arabia are reinforced and fight along side still loyal Saudi troops temporarily restoring the Saudi government to power. Brutal government crackdowns keep the population barely under control. Terrible human rights violations occur in the name of the Saudi government.

Local Russian Federation Pact forces skirmish with local PLA forces in Southern Russian Middle Eastern proxy nations, and rural Western China territories. Mostly in places ending with ‘Stan’ that you’ve never heard of before.
The local forces are finding there new weapons a good way to settle old national, racial, and religious scores across the boarder.

Chinese-Russian relations are at an all time low slowly increasing commitment in fights they don’t want and didn’t start but can’t back down from.

US military forces are over-extended to the breaking point spread to every hotspot around the globe.
US foreign opinion is at an all time low, especially amongst Muslim nations due to the disasters in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Iran works to consolidate its power and influence in Iraq.
EU sits idle choosing to close its eyes and hope this will all go away while Russia makes a fortune off its oil sales, continuing to revitalize its military power to cold war levels.
China’s economy with a secured source of cheap energy in Iran takes off and matches Russia step for step in military upgrades to maintain the balance of power in the region.

On the surface at least the US is keeping up – still developing high-tech answers to America’s last war, barely keeping its head above water.

Turning Point -
September 11th 2010 – In a coordinated effort most major cities on the east coast are car and truck bombed. The US responds with emergency relief and a declaration of a national state of emergency and within days begins to lick its wounds and point fingers much like the 2001 attacks as a nation mourns 2200 deaths.
The terrorists however, have other plans and follow up the original attacks with a second round of attacks the following week.

Chinese, European, Latin American, and Russian PMC (Private Military Contractor) groups are hired by unknown backers to further confuse the situation and to prevent racial profiling.
These groups also bring an additional level of sophistication to these attacks and are rarely caught, captured, or killed without overwhelming force.

Fear paralyzes the nation. One man with a sniper rifle shut DC down for weeks; this is orders of magnitude worse. Emergency services are overwhelmed and overworked. The attacks continue as a suspected 5000 terrorist/PMCs remain at large on the east coast 100s in each major city. Terrorist/PMCs carry out multiple hit and run tactics.

- Car bombings in industrial and city centers
- Mall shootings, and bombings
- Hospital shootings and bombings
- Police building shootings and bombings
- Sniper attacks at schools, businesses, and government facilities
- Government official assassination at the local and state level
- Sniper attacks on the highways killing random drivers

Parents keep their kids home from school and refuse to report to work.
Emergency aide workers – those that report to work – are overworked and exhausted
Police and first responders are decimated in terrorist efforts to eliminate them specifically

Sustained terrorist bombings are a daily occurrence.

Slowly attacks are beginning to be brought under-control under emergency powers granted to by the president and suspension of the Bill of Rights. However, terrorists and PMCs are still gaining entry to the US in a coordinated and steady supply.

US Military check points (National Guard) exist every few miles and regular patrols are conducted but these Military units are spread FAR too thinly.

State, county, city, and town Militias are deputized and formed filling the gaps where the military is spread to thin. These groups are usually under local government control and supplied from Police inventory as well as private weapons.

These groups run the gamut from organized small armies that are well supplied to 3 men in a pickup truck with hunting rifles.

Conduct and control of these groups is also fairly loosely regulated and some groups are little more than organized crime groups under the control of some corrupt politician or sheriff. For the most part people tolerate this preferring ‘home grown’ problems to terrorist attacks.

The attacks continue but it appears that eventually these attacks will eventually be brought under control.

Turning point 2 –
Dec 2nd 2010 - From an unknown vessel in international waters off the US East coast launches a nuclear device high into the air and explodes releasing a large EMP.
80% of all electronic devices on the east coast are fried.

What was left of the US economy has essentially ceased to exist as the technology sector is wiped out. Looting and chaos run rampant in the days after the attack as people try to secure supplies.

National Guard units do what they can but often it is the armed militias and not the civilians that are the worst offenders.

China declares itself ‘international relief’ and begins deploying troops to the US mainland. ‘Forward bases’ are established on the West coast. Airborne drops begin deploying the PLA to east coast disaster areas and metropolitan areas.

EU also declares the need for international relief and sends UN peacekeepers to the east coast disaster areas.

Russian and the RFP not to be outdone promises to ‘provide aide when and where needed’ but doesn’t elaborate.

It appears the new cold war will go hot over the ashes of the United States of America.
The situation does not promise stability for long………


Depending on what actions you’ve taken at Turning point 1:
- You’re just a civilian who now no longer has a reason to go to work and needs to figure out what to do next
- You’re a member of a State, county, city, or town militia.
- You’re a member of the National Guard
- You’re a member of a corporate security force
- You're a member of the US Military called back home

Further options:
- You’re a member of any of the ‘relief’ forces
- You’re a member of an Anti-Government group
- You’re a member of a PMC group trying to figure out how you’re paycheck is going to get to you in all this mess!

Pretty easy to take it from there. Good luck!

[headquarters]

here is a little something we worked on for our current campaign -that we started playing in 2004.

Not everything has been translated as there is other commitments keeping me from writing full time

http://thebigbookofwar.50megs.com/about.html

and -oh yeah- all spelling and grammatical errors are on the General!

[Haven]

OK i reworked this .... taking everyone suggestions into account... and this is the time line I'll be using for my new Twilight 2k13 game.

Updated original text too.


Reposted:

Twilight 2000 – RPG (alternative timeline)

Jan 2008 - President elected and Takes office.
Economy very shaky and to boost economy and balance budget the President raises taxes and cuts military spending. Slow troop withdrawals begin from Iraq and other overseas military bases. Some military base closings similar to the 1990’s and the majority of the new weapons programs are scraped or put on hold due to lack of funding.

Canadian and Mexican boarders are now more vulnerable due to lack of funding but this is nothing new to the boarder patrol.

Police and state defense spending is also cut as states struggle to balance the budget. Crime rates climb. Unemployment rises.

Anti-government groups grow in popularity nation wide as it appears another period of UN over USA begins.

Israel attacks Iran with air strikes to halt nuclear program – and is ineffective.
Iran now with a solid (anti-west) public opinion base form close ties to Iraq’s Shiite population

President at the request of the Iraqi government agrees to an 18 month pullout period
Insurgent violence surges due to US troop pullouts, but larger terrorist organizations bide their time and wait for the US to withdraw. Iraqi commanders are bought, manipulated etc into cooperation or selling of arms to all sorts of organizations. Syria and Iran’s involvement is heavily suspected.

Afghanistan – President deploys the majority of the US remaining troops from Iraq to Afghanistan switching the front from Iraq to Afghanistan

Nationalism rising in Russia and they’re getting nasty, as its former Warsaw Pact members seek to join NATO and Russia is obviously against this and consider this expansionism.
They use espionage, subversion, and political assassination by the KGB to keep the remaining former satellites in their sphere of influence.

They also manipulate the flow of oil and gas to Western Europe as a political weapon and to keep NATO and West Europe from interfering.

Taking Russia’s lead the Middle East and other OPEC members manipulate oil production to increase its costs, this backfires causing a worldwide recession.

President federalizes failing US automakers to keep them open and to provide the American public with alternative energy vehicles as gas prices soar.
Gas is scarce and expensive but few can afford a new alternative energy vehicle.

China has massive numbers of unemployed due to a world wide recession and it is pumping up its military to quell domestic unrest.
It also challenges fuel supplies in their sphere of influence, and they ramp up Nationalism to divert from their domestic problems.
“It’s those Damned Yankees for not buying our junk! And Russia for its strong arm tactics! “
They also build up their naval forces and shadow US planes and submarines in Japanese territorial waters.

China and India both want to emerge from the recession as the new economic leader of the world.
China and India begin arms race in earnest for world stage dominance.
China and India know that the next 50~100 years of technical, economic, and political dominance is at stake.
China averages 1 ‘shuttle type’ launch every month, India every other month.
China’s military sees drastic modernization.

China needing a trade partner in oil to fuel this growth finds one in Iran – China’s energy future is secure as long as there is oil in Iran and Iran sees a huge influx of modern weaponry, military advisors, and money.

Russia responding to this new threat and wanting to secure its oil pipelines (and thus its political weapon) - solidifies (reinvades) control over Georgia – NATO protests but held from meaningful action due to energy concerns.
They realize NATO is not going to respond.
The UN as usual says just words.

Russia has shattered NATO with its manipulation of gas and oil.

China takes note.

They also overthrow some nations and install puppet governments more inline with Moscow.
The Russian Federation Pact is signed (RFP) is the world calls it Warsaw Pact II.
Russian and EU sign trade agreements over oil stabilizing the EU economies at the cost of their inaction.

Defense budget cuts are for the most part reversed as the political landscape changes in the face of a very real Cold War 2.
This time with China as an additional player.

The spending provides a nice boost in the economy showing signs of recovery. The technology sector gets most of the money as the current administration prefers non-lethal/less-than-lethal and remote control options over ‘boots on the ground’. This also has the added benefit of being best for the economy.

An unknown submarine threatens a US carrier group and the carrier employs very aggressive Anti-Submarine Warfare assets, forcing a Chinese submarine to the surface, embarrassing China on the world stage.
China’s government sees this as a national security threat to their reputation in their sphere of influence and national standing and blockade Taiwan in response.

The US has no legal recourse in this matter due to Taiwan’s unique status as an unrecognized nation and is forced to sit on the sidelines.

Taiwanese military forces are reported to have attacked Chinese warships in international waters and responds with a full-scale invasion of Taiwan (to restore reputation and standing).
Obama does not fulfill Taiwan treaty obligations – suspends trade with China.
This action results in 200 US Marine deaths during pullout.
Thousands of Taiwanese are killed and the ‘rogue Chinese territory’ of Taiwan is subdued in 3 months.

Russia and the RFP broaden its reach by sending ‘military advisers’ into Cuba, Mexico, and Venezuela.

The conflict in Afghanistan spills over into Pakistan as Insurgents seek haven from US troops.
The already weakened Pakistani government fighting a loosing battle against a determined extremist Islamic insurgency collapses and goes into exile.
A small US peacekeeping force moves in to prevent Pakistan’s nuclear weapons from ‘falling into the wrong hands’ at the request of the ousted government and after 1 week of hard fighting is quickly withdrawn.
Quickly suppressed reports surface that the peacekeepers were too late and some of Pakistan’s arsenal is unaccounted for.

Saudi Arabia’s kingdom also collapses due to Islamic extremism. US bases in Saudi Arabia are reinforced and fight along side still loyal Saudi troops temporarily restoring the Saudi government to power. Brutal government crackdowns keep the population barely under control. Terrible human rights violations occur in the name of the Saudi government.

Local Russian Federation Pact forces skirmish with local PLA forces in Southern Russian Middle Eastern proxy nations, and rural Western China territories. Mostly in places ending with ‘Stan’ that you’ve never heard of before.
The local forces are finding there new weapons a good way to settle old national, racial, and religious scores across the boarder.

Chinese-Russian relations are at an all time low slowly increasing commitment in fights they don’t want and didn’t start but can’t back down from.

US military forces are over-extended to the breaking point spread to every hotspot around the globe.
US foreign opinion is at an all time low, especially amongst Muslim nations due to the disasters in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Iran works to consolidate its power and influence in Iraq.
EU sits idle choosing to close its eyes and hope this will all go away while Russia makes a fortune off its oil sales, continuing to revitalize its military power to cold war levels.
China’s economy with a secured source of cheap energy in Iran takes off and matches Russia step for step in military upgrades to maintain the balance of power in the region.

On the surface at least the US is keeping up – still developing high-tech answers to America’s last war, barely keeping its head above water.

Turning Point -
September 11th 2010 – In a coordinated effort most major cities on the east coast are car and truck bombed. The US responds with emergency relief and a declaration of a national state of emergency and within days begins to lick its wounds and point fingers much like the 2001 attacks as a nation mourns 2200 deaths.
The terrorists however, have other plans and follow up the original attacks with a second round of attacks the following week.

Chinese, European, Latin American, and Russian PMC (Private Military Contractor) groups are hired by unknown backers to further confuse the situation and to prevent racial profiling.
These groups also bring an additional level of sophistication to these attacks and are rarely caught, captured, or killed without overwhelming force.

Fear paralyzes the nation. One man with a sniper rifle shut DC down for weeks; this is orders of magnitude worse. Emergency services are overwhelmed and overworked. The attacks continue as a suspected 5000 terrorist/PMCs remain at large on the east coast 100s in each major city. Terrorist/PMCs carry out multiple hit and run tactics.

- Car bombings in industrial and city centers
- Mall shootings, and bombings
- Hospital shootings and bombings
- Police building shootings and bombings
- Sniper attacks at schools, businesses, and government facilities
- Government official assassination at the local and state level
- Sniper attacks on the highways killing random drivers

Parents keep their kids home from school and refuse to report to work.
Emergency aide workers – those that report to work – are overworked and exhausted
Police and first responders are decimated in terrorist efforts to eliminate them specifically

Sustained terrorist bombings are a daily occurrence.

Slowly attacks are beginning to be brought under-control under emergency powers granted to by the president and suspension of the Bill of Rights. However, terrorists and PMCs are still gaining entry to the US in a coordinated and steady supply.

US Military check points (National Guard) exist every few miles and regular patrols are conducted but these Military units are spread FAR too thinly.

State, county, city, and town Militias are deputized and formed filling the gaps where the military is spread to thin. These groups are usually under local government control and supplied from Police inventory as well as private weapons.

These groups run the gamut from organized small armies that are well supplied to 3 men in a pickup truck with hunting rifles.

Conduct and control of these groups is also fairly loosely regulated and some groups are little more than organized crime groups under the control of some corrupt politician or sheriff. For the most part people tolerate this preferring ‘home grown’ problems to terrorist attacks.

The attacks continue but it appears that eventually these attacks will eventually be brought under control.

Turning point 2 –
Dec 2nd 2010 - From an unknown vessel in international waters off the US East coast launches a nuclear device high into the air and explodes releasing a large EMP.
80% of all electronic devices on the east coast are fried.

What was left of the US economy has essentially ceased to exist as the technology sector is wiped out. Looting and chaos run rampant in the days after the attack as people try to secure supplies.

National Guard units do what they can but often it is the armed militias and not the civilians that are the worst offenders.

China declares itself ‘international relief’ and begins deploying troops to the US mainland. ‘Forward bases’ are established on the West coast. Airborne drops begin deploying the PLA to east coast disaster areas and metropolitan areas.

EU also declares the need for international relief and sends UN peacekeepers to the east coast disaster areas.

Russian and the RFP not to be outdone promises to ‘provide aide when and where needed’ but doesn’t elaborate.

It appears the new cold war will go hot over the ashes of the United States of America.
The situation does not promise stability for long………


Depending on what actions you’ve taken at Turning point 1:
- You’re just a civilian who now no longer has a reason to go to work and needs to figure out what to do next
- You’re a member of a State, county, city, or town militia.
- You’re a member of the National Guard
- You’re a member of a corporate security force
- You're a member of the US Military called back home

Further options:
- You’re a member of any of the ‘relief’ forces
- You’re a member of an Anti-Government group
- You’re a member of a PMC group trying to figure out how you’re paycheck is going to get to you in all this mess!

Pretty easy to take it from there. Good luck!

[Nowhere Man 1966]

I always thought that www.johntitor.com would be a good start along with the CBS show of recent vintage, "Jericho." John Titor is a supposed time traveller who claims there will be a civil war in the future and later a world war. I know for my Morrow Project game, I bummed a few plots off of it.

Chuck M.

[smokewolf]

Just some food for thought...

http://stop-emp.com/index2.html

They have white papers and such discussing EMP effects.

A good read was the:
CRS Report for Congress
High Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) and High Power Microwave (HPM) Devices: Threat Assessments - http://stop-emp.com/crs.pdf

Especially the sections dealing with Private Sector Vulnerability and Military Vulnerability.

Also of good read was the US Congressional EMP Commission report - http://stop-emp.com/EMPCExecRpt_Final072204.pdf .

[Marc]

Very interesting material, Smokewolf.

[Haven]

So confused as to which timeline we're talking about now....

One thing (i think) ... that i wanted to mention is that the military C&C will still be largely intact (hardened against EMP) but my campaign will be largely about civilians and I am assuming that infrastructure is not hardened.

But ultimately my campaign would be considered Hollywood next to any real close scrutiny .... and i am ok with that =)

However I do welcome the feedback and you've given me a lot to think about in terms of active/reserve military at home.
Also China would have boosted its Navy during the build up but again I accept that this is probably an impossible amount of time to compete with the US Navy.
But again i am sorta counting on them to be in the Persian gulf and not on the west coast.