Gun trucks and convoy escorts

[James Langham]

A larger article that grew and grew in writing...

Nitpicks and comments as ever welcome.

[pmulcahy11b]

I imagine gun trucks as one of those custom bits of equipment -- they were made to fulfill a specific need, there's no manual on their construction, they're armed and armored with whatever is available, and no one is the same as another.

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I imagine gun trucks as one of those custom bits of equipment -- they were made to fulfill a specific need, there's no manual on their construction, they're armed and armored with whatever is available, and no one is the same as another.

That was actually how I came to the subject until I looked at what had happened in Iraq. I think it will depend on who designs them, I imagine Pact ones as being more standardized than US ones for example.

[Legbreaker]

It's worth keeping in mind the difference in both time, place and tactical situation. Iraq is a completely different circumstance to continental USA post nuke.
So all in all, I'm with Paul and believe trucks will be created on a case by case basis depending on need and availability of resources.

[Raellus]

If you take a look at gun trucks early in the Iraq war, you'll notice very little standardization. All kinds of trucks from HUMVEEs to HEMTs were armed variously and armored with whatever was at hand ("hillbilly armor" they called it). Only later did you start seeing purpose-made armor kits, turrets, and that sort of thing.

I think that, in the Twilight War, by the time the need for gun trucks became apparent, no one really had the manufacturing capacity to create "official" armor and/or armaments packages. Therefore, gun trucks would be created ad-hoc, with whatever armor, weapons, etc. that the creators happened to have on hand.

We had quite a discussion on gun trucks a while back, James. There may be some useful info and pics here, if you decide to make any revisions. Here's the link.

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.p...ight=guntrucks

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by Raellus

If you take a look at gun trucks early in the Iraq war, you'll notice very little standardization. All kinds of trucks from HUMVEEs to HEMTs were armed variously and armored with whatever was at hand ("hillbilly armor" they called it). Only later did you start seeing purpose-made armor kits, turrets, and that sort of thing.

I think that, in the Twilight War, by the time the need for gun trucks became apparent, no one really had the manufacturing capacity to create "official" armor and/or armaments packages. Therefore, gun trucks would be created ad-hoc, with whatever armor, weapons, etc. that the creators happened to have on hand.

We had quite a discussion on gun trucks a while back, James. There may be some useful info and pics here, if you decide to make any revisions. Here's the link.

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.p...ight=guntrucks

Thanks, I should have remembered that thread as I posted in it... A couple of pics will make their way into the revised version.

I can see the standardised parts arriving sooner than we think, after all Iraq was very much a case of denying there was a problem. Maybe the best way to treat it is that a local pattern at a base workshop is standardised - I am basing that thought on the way the plows were created in Normandy in 1944 and fitted very quickly.