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Old 05-01-2013, 07:07 AM
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Justin Bieber was discovered on youtube in 2008 and if Twight 2000 occurred we would have never got to suffer hearing or seeing him, the Kardasians or Honey boo boo!
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And despite the constant war, radiation sickness and mass starvation.... the world was a better place.
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Oh and no ipod or iphone.........
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:26 AM
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Thats even better then no Honey boo boo......
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No, they glow in the dark

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Mike - Monica didnt happen till 1998

So with war clouds on the horizon and Clinton seen as a peace president I doubt he gets a second term.

And considering the state of the world's navies by 2000 we would definitely have Somali pirates - as well as a lot of others.

As for Bin Laden and his boys - they didnt make their big splash till the East African embassy bombings - and by then the US has a lot more to worry about.
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And people say that nothing good could ever come out of a nuclear war!!!

No Storage Wars, South Beach Towing or Dawg, The Bounty Hunter....
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No DVDs - they were just getting ramped up in the mid/late 90s.

Actually, given that the Cold War didn't end, there's a lot of tech that never would've trickled down to civilian hands (DVDs were not among these, though - the Motion Picture Electronics Group was driving forward from the VERY early 90s). No GPS-in-phone, and, given that the iPhone never got invented likely no smartphones as we know them at all. Sure, cell phones...but 1G "bricks".

If you found a working personal computer in T2k, if it was the fastest thing out there, it'd be a PII-450 or possibly PIII-500 with 3-5gb of hard drive, and perhaps 128-256mb RAM and a 17" tube monitor (flat panel displays were available - I remember installing some - but they were rare).

CDs rode tall in the saddle; cassettes weren't totally out yet (I was making "mix-tapes" for friends up until '96 or so), and vinyl hadn't made the "underground" resurgence yet. Likewise, VHS releases of first-run movies were still common.

I'm sure there's some drugs and medical procedures we take for granted now that wouldn't be at all common had things "stopped" in 1997.

Anyone with Type II diabetes is dead by late mid 1998.
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Neither George W Bush nor Barak Obama would have been presidents, and it would be the Clinton Administration that took us into World War 3.
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Neither George W Bush nor Barak Obama would have been presidents, and it would be the Clinton Administration that took us into World War 3.
Assuming he survived an initial strike, W would have been the de facto president of the Republic of Texas, though.
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Considering where the nuclear attacks are in Texas then George W. Bush definitely would still be alive and governor if the rest to the timeline was followed. The question would be if Clinton would have been re-elected in 1996 with war going on with the Soviets and Chinese - in a situation like that Bob Dole may have been elected instead.
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Anyone with Type II diabetes is dead by late mid 1998.
Probably not. Type II doesn't require insulin in most cases and it's not a terribly fast-acting disease. It is possible to treat mild cases of Type II without drugs in some cases (exercise and diet).
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Well, two things that definitely would not have happened (don't know if it was mentioned already)...Facebook, and Twitter.

Ugh, just mentioning the two gives me a headache.
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Well, two things that definitely would not have happened (don't know if it was mentioned already)...Facebook, and Twitter.

Ugh, just mentioning the two gives me a headache.
No great loss.

Anyway, here's my view on how the T2k US presidential election of 1996 would have gone with Clinton as president, going with the trope that Americans don't like to change horses mid-stream at a time of war, or when the US is threatened with war.

November 5th, 1996. The final United States presidential election before the nuclear war:



Bill Clinton 465 EV, 52,0% of the popular vote
Bob Dole 73 EV, 39,9% of the popular vote
Ross Perot 0 EV, 7,1% of the popular vote

In fact, Bill Clinton as POTUS and running in 1996 is perfectly logical if one goes by the Finnish T2k sourcebook, as the POD of that is in December 1993, when Clinton is already president.
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And don't forget the loss of most of those great toys the troops have nowdays.
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And don't forget the loss of most of those great toys the troops have nowdays.
Jealous, much?
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Jealous, much?
You're damn right I am!
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