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Old 10-21-2013, 09:43 PM
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Default Amazing WW2 blueprints of East front German fortifications.

Really, really awesome. Make for some great ideas for a PD wanting to make the KFS army a little tougher.

http://www.allworldwars.com/German%2...n%20Front.html
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:08 PM
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Nice Find.

However, based on what I have read about the Rich Five and the constant infighting amongst the families, I do not think the "Military" side of the KFS would have been able to build such defenses.

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Old 10-25-2013, 11:25 PM
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Nice Find.

However, based on what I have read about the Rich Five and the constant infighting amongst the families, I do not think the "Military" side of the KFS would have been able to build such defenses.

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Depends on whose interests they are protecting.
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:51 PM
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Nice Find.

However, based on what I have read about the Rich Five and the constant infighting amongst the families, I do not think the "Military" side of the KFS would have been able to build such defenses.

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I don't understand why you would think so? These are logs, wattle, and sand bags mostly. Some wire in the form of fasteners and of course barbed wire, is employed. 1914 level of technology even though these were revived for WW2. Given the lower tech level and frontier like atmosphere of the KFS, it shouldn't be hard for them to put together labor that knows how to build with logs to create standing walls, bridges, roof or overhead cover, and elevated paths. The expenditure in material for the KFS is shovels, picks, mallets, wire, spikes, cross cut saws, and wire. Low cost and not won't threaten them if lost or stolen. Given that the KFS uses slave labor there is probably an Army unit, supervised by the Secret police the provides the labor to dig and haul logs.

The KFS has lots of frontier and quite a few neighbors that are hostile. A defensive network saves on manpower to hold an area. In the German doctrine of a stabilized front, works like this held down areas, like key terrain, to enable a larger, more mobile reserve to commit counter attacks.
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Army Sgt.,

You bring several interesting point to the discussion. Yes, trenches, barricades, etc. are very low tech and could be produced with little investment. But why should they? As I read KFS, the neighbors are VERY disorganized, same or lower tech, much smaller militaries, and not really in a position to cause many problems for the KFS Army. I think the scenarios Bullets and Bluegrass and Fallback point out that the KFS Army was HUGE in contrast to everyone else in the area. They could field V300's with 90mm, 105mm towed artillery, and the Pretorian Guard had ersatz M60's and M1's. The KFS Air Force could field P-47's. I think that given the ongoing feuds between the Families and the general incompetence of the General Staff, the decision to build forts at the most critical points and reinforce as needed was all the KFS had to do. As I read B&B, the fort mentioned where the Science One was parked was fairly well done.

Besides, there is all of the graft and greed with cross border trade. You do not want to cut that off.

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One of those neighbors are the Krell. Disorganized yes, but with Morrow equipment, support from captured Morrow bases, and a fanatical base.

The Africans on the coast are more than likely hostile.

The Amerind tribes are likely to let the infantry and V300s pass, then kill and burn the artillery and supply convoys after looting their small arms and ammo.

There is a lot of territory to tie down. Trade routes that must be secured. With a police state and a large standing army you need to keep them busy before they start thinking about a change of regime.

The KFS seems to like a frontier fort and cavalry system and their main method.

They need to secure things like their refineries, road junctions, rail network, power plants, airports, factory complexes, and river junctions.

A large state requires a large communications network.
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One of those neighbors are the Krell. Disorganized yes, but with Morrow equipment, support from captured Morrow bases, and a fanatical base.

The Africans on the coast are more than likely hostile.

The Amerind tribes are likely to let the infantry and V300s pass, then kill and burn the artillery and supply convoys after looting their small arms and ammo.

There is a lot of territory to tie down. Trade routes that must be secured. With a police state and a large standing army you need to keep them busy before they start thinking about a change of regime.

The KFS seems to like a frontier fort and cavalry system and their main method.

They need to secure things like their refineries, road junctions, rail network, power plants, airports, factory complexes, and river junctions.

A large state requires a large communications network.
Let me see what I can comment here.

Krell: I agree disorganized, but they are pointed at Morrow. They might even help KFS find Morrow. And vice versa. KFS HATES Morrow.

Africans on coast: A LONG way away. Not a problem today. Maybe later.

Amerinds: A raid might work the first time. Then the P-47's are called in. Look what happened to the Souix and Apache once main US forces are committed.

Trade Routes: They must be guarded. But once inside of KFS, what is there to worry about? This why KFS seems to use fort system. Any legal trader just calls at the nearest fort. An illegal smuggler, well, the old saying goes there is a lot of gain for a lot of risk......

Major infrastructure: Yes it needs to be guarded, but most of it is centralized in the Major area of KFS. Army and secret police will make short work of ANY intruder.

Communication: Telegraph worked fine for Union Army during American Civil War. They also have radio. At most 1920's tech. Not a problem as far as I can see.

Large Army: Yes it CAN be trouble. That is why there is a secret police. Also, the average KFS soldier is a good soldier. Does what he is told. Fairly decent housing, rations, pay. An excellent way out of poverty.

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