Non standardized cache ideas.

[kato13]

I was thinking about the homes of the Counsel of Tomorrow from my thought that making one of them an historical aviation enthusiast. That let me to think about what the Counsel might place around that does not scream "Armed paramilitary survivalists"

If one of the Counsel is along the lines of a Tony Stark, perhaps well hidden on his remote property is a full machine shop (with fusion hookups). Ostensibly the machines are procured to assist him in making parts for his classic car collection.

If such caches are looted or destroyed it is a shame, but if they are one third as difficult/expensive to produce as bolt holes and half survive you have a net gain.

Anyone have any other thoughts on this.

[stormlion1]

It really counts on who makes up the Counsel Of Tomorrow. Use Howard Hughes as a example. Man had so much money (ToolCo, TWA, he sold and then retried to buy TWA at one point) he spent petty cash to buy a casino to move a sign that was annoying him. He could build a Ranch out in the Mojave desert with a airfield and underground hangers and storage and machine shops and no one would bat an eye at it because its something they would expect him to do. For say a member of the Guggenheim family that would be well out of his profile. But building a reinforced storage depot in the mountains of lower New York to store art or antique cars would be believable. Quite a bit could be hidden as part of there business's assets if done properly.

Other options for storage would be abandoned Rail Cars on unused sidings owned by CoT members, Caches hidden behind public works built by CoT assets, or one recently found by my crew. An entire airfield hidden as a Golf Course.

[Gamer]

I agree Storm, it really will depend on just WHO those members are, eccentricity of the members will make a big difference.

Kato, your 'Tony Stark' example could be a member who specialized in industrial 3D printers.
A fully automated system that built god only knows what for the MP.
Non standard cache? no problem..

[kato13]

Howard Stark was a natural choice for the Counsel. I kind of have Tony thrust into the Counsel when his father dies in 1981. (No Ironman stuff)

His technology would not be the same as the movies, but would be quite advanced for the times.

[mikeo80]

Originally Posted by kato13

Howard Stark was a natural choice for the Counsel. I kind of have Tony thrust into the Counsel when his father dies in 1981. (No Ironman stuff)

His technology would not be the same as the movies, but would be quite advanced for the times.

If we are going to go this direction, may I suggest the following additions to CoT.

Reed Richards
Bruce Banner
Bruce Wayne
Lucius Fox
Lex Luthor

Let's see. Early members of CoT.

Jonas Salk
Albert Einstein
Henry Kaiser
Robert Oppenheimer

These are a few names that come to mind.

My $0.02

Mike

[stormlion1]

I prefer to use real world people for my CoT so Howard Hughes made my list, last campaign even had him frozen at a facility beneath the Las Vegas Ruins and had us go find and revive him. Lee Iacocca was another one who didn't survive the bombs. Those are the only two I remember at the moment.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by mikeo80

Henry Kaiser

I have him in my original COT list
http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=4423

Great minds ....

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by kato13

I was thinking about the homes of the Counsel of Tomorrow from my thought that making one of them an historical aviation enthusiast. That let me to think about what the Counsel might place around that does not scream "Armed paramilitary survivalists"

If one of the Counsel is along the lines of a Tony Stark, perhaps well hidden on his remote property is a full machine shop (with fusion hookups). Ostensibly the machines are procured to assist him in making parts for his classic car collection.

If such caches are looted or destroyed it is a shame, but if they are one third as difficult/expensive to produce as bolt holes and half survive you have a net gain.

Anyone have any other thoughts on this.

So a cache system outside of the Morrow Project that belongs to members of the Council of Tomorrow?

What does the Rich Five cache that they haven't opened and used?


A Vineyard? Waiting for nuclear winter and then the current ice age to end to re-cultivate the Napa Valley in wine grapes. All the presses, vats, and bottling equipment.

Council Comms sites. A corporation must communicate internally and externally to operate. A Council system of comms relays. Fiber, microwave, possible a satellite ground station all tucked away in hilly small country estate.

A fusion powerplant to operate a large refining or manufacturing facility. Some of these facilities are going to survive because they are too large and solid to be significantly damage by a nuke aimed at a nearby city. A steel plant for example. However, these do consume tremendous amounts of electrical power. An early model of fusion plant to large for vehicle or one specifically designed for the output to operate a steel plant could be emplaced under the cover of a massive environmental cleanup.

[ArmySGT.]

A cache of Wine, Cheese, and Caviar.

No need to eat like savages just because of an apocalypse.

[ArmySGT.]

A tech level A high end medical clinic.

Automated and robotic lab facility to assist a handful of Doctors and specialists to maintain the health of these Council members.

Somewhere that can synthesize vaccines from pathogen samples. Store whole blood. Surgical theater for open heart and transplant surgeries. Pre and Neo natal care.

Fusion powered and capable of producing synthetic opiates. Possibly on the bleeding edge of lab grown organs and high end prosthetics.

[Askold]

I know that rpg players like conflict and therefore are eager to find and look for guns and military equipment. In fact, looking at this forum most people are interested in purely what kind of military stuff the Morrow project would have and making rules for those.

On the other hand, if the project is supposed to save humanity and help them rebuild after a nuclear war guns are not that high on the priority list to rebuild society. Sure, you need some weapons for defense and hunting but having those be the priority means that the Morrow project simply becomes the best armed group of warlords and marauders. And if those caches are found and fall into wrong hands it means that there are other well armed groups that may be a threat to the project.

Instead, having caches with tools, machinery etc. will help rebuild the society, possibly EVEN IF THOSE SUPPLIES ARE FOUND BY ANOTHER GROUP OF SURVIVORS!

Stuff like a fully stocked (even if small) hospital built into an underground bunker would do wonders.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Askold

I know that rpg players like conflict and therefore are eager to find and look for guns and military equipment. In fact, looking at this forum most people are interested in purely what kind of military stuff the Morrow project would have and making rules for those.

On the other hand, if the project is supposed to save humanity and help them rebuild after a nuclear war guns are not that high on the priority list to rebuild society. Sure, you need some weapons for defense and hunting but having those be the priority means that the Morrow project simply becomes the best armed group of warlords and marauders. And if those caches are found and fall into wrong hands it means that there are other well armed groups that may be a threat to the project.

Instead, having caches with tools, machinery etc. will help rebuild the society, possibly EVEN IF THOSE SUPPLIES ARE FOUND BY ANOTHER GROUP OF SURVIVORS!

Stuff like a fully stocked (even if small) hospital built into an underground bunker would do wonders.

Actually the one of the first posts I made was on such a subject.

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=275 (feel free to comment on that thread if you find it interesting)

My thought is that under every Finmart (Walmart in this world), there are Agricultural caches.

They are semi difficult to recover, requiring some organization before they are accessed.