[OT] Thinking about Ukraine has changed

[Adm.Lee]

About a month ago, I posted here (and elsewhere) that I thought, during the Crimea takeover, that the Ukrainian military, small and under-equipped as it was, was showing remarkable discipline in non-violently not surrendering for the Russians. They stayed in barracks or on ships, did not surrender their ships/weapons (for a long while, at least), and no hothead lieutenant, drunk sergeant, or clueless private mouthed off or slugged one of the mystery gunmen or started shooting when weapons were drawn.

This week, I am reading that a column of armored vehicles drove up to the pro-separatist folks and were disarmed without much fuss, after a few days of threats by the government. When those threats weren't carried out rapidly, I wondered about slow-rolling by the officers on the spot. Now, I am wondering about collusion and conspiracy. Anyone else want to join me on this train trip to Paranoia?

[pmulcahy11b]

My mother, who is a concentration vet, says when she hears Putin talk or about his activities, it reminds her of Hitler.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

My mother, who is a concentration vet, says when she hears Putin talk or about his activities, it reminds her of Hitler.

After the things you've related her saying and doing, I have nothing but the utmost respect for your mother, Paul.

[Schone23666]

Well, to add to that, this story popped up:

http://news.yahoo.com/someones-handi...FT2SYAP.HQtDMD

Basically, someone's circulating pamphlets instructing Jews in the eastern Ukraine to register themselves or face deportation. Not sure what to make of this story, in situations like this where things start getting confused. But the implications are a bit chilling.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Schone23666

Well, to add to that, this story popped up:

http://news.yahoo.com/someones-handi...FT2SYAP.HQtDMD

Basically, someone's circulating pamphlets instructing Jews in the eastern Ukraine to register themselves or face deportation. Not sure what to make of this story, in situations like this where things start getting confused. But the implications are a bit chilling.

I think this is counter propaganda.

I have a friend whose step mom is a semi recent Russian/Ukrainian immigrant. She and her friends back home are supportive of the Russian side and a few weeks ago they were spreading stories of Ukrainian Nationalist Fascists marking the homes of Jews in order to make the Ukrainian side look bad.

It would make sense to me if the Ukrainian supporters in the eastern portion decided to do something similar, to counter what the Russians were doing.

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by kato13

I think this is counter propaganda.

I agree

[stormlion1]

I'm not sure the story is true. It could be something faked by someone with a sick mind. I sure hope its fake anyway. Nobody could be that dumb to go through that again.

[rcaf_777]

Canada is sending a six pack of F-18