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Old 09-14-2015, 05:09 PM
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Any LEO's want to hint to possible gear available? Nothing RW, but let's say Precinct 123 has 105 personnel and 15 or so non police employees. 10-15 are admin-leadership, armory and property clerks, jailers, and roughly 90 officers in three shifts. How much duty ammo, how many spare sidearms, shotguns, patrol rifles? It's time to look at "False Dawn" 2013, and dust off the zombie notes. what is available to desperate city officials, or looting survivors using your professional opinion? For our foreign brethren, any suggestions, UK AFO van loadouts, etc.
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Old 09-14-2015, 05:26 PM
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My county Sheriff's Department only got "standard issued equipment" in 2008. Prior to that, it was bring what you have. They gave us stipends to buy gun belts, uniforms, and vests.
In 2008, we got Glock 23's (gen 3) in 40 S&W each with 6 mags (a total of 20 units for our 15 man department). 6 Mossberg 590's with Surefire fore ends (for our cruisers and the courthouse) and 6 Semi auto M4 carbines with AimPoint T1 micros, "Gansta grips," Surefire lights and 6 30 rnd windowed Pmags per carbine (also for our cruisers and the courthouse). We had "semi-standardized" on the Glock 23 and the SIG 229 back in 2000 (with everyone buying their own) and then authorized the .357 SIG round about a year later. Older deputies (like myself) were permitted to retain their SIGs if they chose too. Newer deputies were required to carry the Glock 23. Everyone must carry an issued Glock 23 now.

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Old 09-14-2015, 05:44 PM
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The armored car company (Fidelity Armored) I worked for had an eclectic mix of weapons in the armory (which were seldom used). Guards and messengers were permitted to carry any weapon they qualified with, so most carried their own weapons. Our boss bought two Mossberg 500s (18" bbl, 7+1 mag) and two M590 pump action shotguns (a 20" 8+1 shot M590 & an 18" 7+1 M590A1). We also had an AR-15 HBAR (20" bbl) with GI mags, a Beretta Carbine in 45 ACP (with a couple of 20 rnd extended mags), and a 20 gauge double barrel with a tac rail and Surefire flashlight (under a desk in the office no less). Pistols included 2 Walther P99's in 40 S&W, a Kimber 1911 in .45 ACP, and a S&W 6904 (12 shot compact) 9mm.
I swear my boss went to auctions and yard sales to buy guns.

When I worked for Great Lakes Armored (before LOOMIS took over), we had Mossberg M500 pump shotguns (12 gauge) and half a dozen S&W model 13? fixed sight 6 shot stainless .357 Magnum revolvers (with 2 speedloaders each). Guards and messengers were cleared to use any weapon they wanted (both long guns and sidearms) as long as they passed the company qualification with it.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:58 PM
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Any LEO's want to hint to possible gear available? Nothing RW, but let's say Precinct 123 has 105 personnel and 15 or so non police employees. 10-15 are admin-leadership, armory and property clerks, jailers, and roughly 90 officers in three shifts. How much duty ammo, how many spare sidearms, shotguns, patrol rifles? It's time to look at "False Dawn" 2013, and dust off the zombie notes. what is available to desperate city officials, or looting survivors using your professional opinion? For our foreign brethren, any suggestions, UK AFO van loadouts, etc.
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:59 PM
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Not very complete or accurate, but interesting.

looked at PA. Most cities or counties in my region not even listed.

Pittsburgh is listed as authorizing Glock 17 (9mmP) or Glock 23 (.40 S&W) when the police there have been issued the Glock 19 (9mmP) for nearly 2 decades.

Lists Erie as having an unknown 9mmP. This was the ill fated (and completely unreliable) Ruger P85. This was replaced by the Glock 19 (9mmP). in the 90's.

.40 S&W is improperly listed as 10mm X 22mm. This is the 10mm Auto. The .40 S&W round is 10mm X 19mm (exactly the same length as a 9mmP).
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:51 PM
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Interesting, I though the property room would resemble a marauder cache, but wanted an idea of what a station might have on hand.
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Old 09-14-2015, 11:34 PM
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my small town in western NY had a total of nine police - all armed (until well into the 1990's) with revolvers and pump action shotguns, until they finally got Glock's around 2000
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There are 170 Police Services in Canada, I sure the State of Calforina has more than that.

The number could be higher if count Sheriffs(Different function in Canada), Highway Patrols, and Conservation Units
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