One step closer... Army looking to acquire LAV-25s

[Tegyrius]

The LAV-25 is more air-transportable than the Stryker, so the 82nd Airborne is interested in swiping some from the Marines:

http://taskandpurpose.com/army-gets-...07c70-84185409

- C.

[James Langham2]

They handed them back in 1991 as they didn't like them....

[Louied]

IIRC, the Army wanted them for the 9 ID in the 80's but Congress but the kybosh on that.

[ArmySGT.]

Too light to fight and to heavy to run.

I get that it is Cavalry and intended for reconnaissance. Still it is grossly overmatched by the BMP-3 and BMP-4 in the recon/counter recon fight.

Even the Russian 30mm grenades can pen this at 200 meters. Current gen RPG-16 rounds will tear it in half. The 25mm chain gun is losing effectiveness against the BMP-3 and may not pen a BMP-4 at long range. Lack of an ATGM is a negative against Cavs traditional screening role against counter attack.

By the time all that is fixed it will be back up to what a Stryker weighs.

[cawest]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Too light to fight and to heavy to run.

I get that it is Cavalry and intended for reconnaissance. Still it is grossly overmatched by the BMP-3 and BMP-4 in the recon/counter recon fight.

Even the Russian 30mm grenades can pen this at 200 meters. Current gen RPG-16 rounds will tear it in half. The 25mm chain gun is losing effectiveness against the BMP-3 and may not pen a BMP-4 at long range. Lack of an ATGM is a negative against Cavs traditional screening role against counter attack.

By the time all that is fixed it will be back up to what a Stryker weighs.

i think that is why they are going to the 30mm soonish

https://www.army.mil/article/181203/...grades_to_come

[The Dark]

Originally Posted by cawest

i think that is why they are going to the 30mm soonish

https://www.army.mil/article/181203/...grades_to_come

One potential problem I see with the Stryker Dragoon is it's almost as heavy as the Stryker MGS; there's only about half a ton of difference in their weights (about 40,000 pounds for the Dragoon and 41,000 for the MGS). It's probably going to need the reinforced suspension of the MGS, and it's not going to be quite as mobile or air-mobile as the current ICV (which is two tons lighter than the Dragoon). Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but it feels like the Stryker is forever being cast as having potential to do this, that, and the other thing, but it's never very good at whatever it's supposed to do; sort of a jack-of-all-trades, master of none kind of thing.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by cawest

i think that is why they are going to the 30mm soonish

https://www.army.mil/article/181203/...grades_to_come

That is the remote turret for the Stryker. Which the article says is using the ammunition from the A-10. I thought it was a modified 30mm such as the AH-64 Apache currently fields. So I am confused on that point.

This vehicle here is the LAV-25 that the 82nd is thinking of fielded for their Cavalry element. Which I suppose is an upgrade over HMMWVs, and still completely overmatched by the BMP-3 or BMP-4.