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Old 04-11-2022, 01:09 PM
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Paul got me thinking:

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As for certain pet projects that were given some extra funds and development in T2K -- we've all done that.
What are your favorite projects/systems that died (or were slowed down dramatically) in the post-Cold War drawdowns and never saw the light of day or arrived decades later, that for game purposes you "pencil in" as operable during the war?

Some of mine:

Reactivation of the Salem-class cruisers.
C-17 transport aircraft schedule accelerated.
Midgetman missile.
LAV-75/M8 AGS.
AKMR rifle.
Light Motorized division, FAVs in Light Infantry Division and the Light Armored Cav Regiment
SU-130

(and the opposite, things that were kept in service longer than reality:
the 600-ship Navy, with many of the older classes of frigates, destroyers and the Midway-class carriers still in service
M-48A5s, T-34/85s, SU-100s and SU-76s in NATO and Pact service, respectively)

What are yours????
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Old 04-11-2022, 04:19 PM
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A few that pop up off the top of my head:

LOSAT goes into series production
FOG-M
Follow on to TOW (Fire and Forget)

F-4E retirement continues, but F-4G stays on. Maybe more F-4Gs get converted or produced (Desert Storm required the bulk of the F-4G fleet to support operations)
A-10s receive NVG compatibility and limited night ops capability earlier than otl
B-1B force remains nuclear tasked or dual tasked regular Air Force asset

USAR retains combat arms units, especially the USAR SF units
Grizzly CEV produced
M1014 Wolverine produced earlier and on 1:1 replacement for M60 AVLB
M88A2 replaced M88 and M88A1 at 1:1

USCG retains ASW role with upgrade of Hamilton class cutters continuing during FRAM. Famous class and reliance class cutters continue to be fitted “for but not with”
P-3 Orion replacement/upgrade continues on earlier trajectory with P-7 acquisition
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Old 04-11-2022, 04:43 PM
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I agree with the previous posts, and:

The EA-6B is retained, and the A-6F is in service.

The A-7F is in service, not just with the US, but with some other NATO countries (I haven't decided which yet).

Several of the M48/AAA versions I details in my Best AAA That Never Were are in action, and proliferated all over the world amongst countries with retired M48s or countries looking for a cheap mobile SAM/AAA solution.

The F-16F SCAMP is in service, re-christened the Super Scamp, and was in fact the aircraft flown by the Twilight War's highest scoring ace.

The X-29 and X-31s were developed into operational air superiority fighters, designated F-29 Asp and F-31 Wildcat II.

I'll try to come up with more.
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Old 04-11-2022, 05:46 PM
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M8 AGS
A-12 in limited quantities
A-6F/G
Motorized Division and Light Armored Cavalry Regiment
RAH-66 in limited quantities
reactivation of the Des Moines Class Cruisers
reactivation of many ships of NDRF
Ground Launched Hellfire vehicle in limited quantities

USSR
Ulyanovsk CVN
Varyag CV
YAK-41
AKMR


West German
MBB Lampyridae in limited quantities
G11

Brazil
EE-T1 and T2


Those are the ones that come to mind. If I think of more I'll post more.
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Old 04-11-2022, 10:35 PM
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All this shows me that I have been really remiss in adding the line, "Twilight 2000 Notes" to my entries.
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Old 04-11-2022, 10:46 PM
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Stealthhawk in limited numbers,

M29 OICW in small numbers; M25 Punisher in much larger numbers.

MV-22 and CV-22 in small numbers

MV-22B Pave Hammer in very small numbers

Airwolf available in really small numbers (they are more rumors about the Airwolf than anything else, and even some four-stars don't know the truth...)
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:15 PM
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I have so many......

F-20A
F-111A refurbishment program and all assigned to a wing based in Sweden
USS Truman and USS Reagan in service
BB museum ships renter service...USS Texas (not realistic but I wanted her active), USS Alabama, and USS North Carolina in limited service by early 2001.
USS Essex Class - USS Oriskany, USS Bennington, USS Bon Homme Richard, USS Hornet, USS Lexington, USS Yorktown, and USS Intrepid.
Surviving Permit and Skate SSN classes
F-16F
All surviving F-4 airframes
T-34/85s
SU-100s and SU-130s
M3A4s
Additional Ticonderoga class CGs
Additional Arleigh Burke class DDGs
USS Midway and Coral Sea
MiG-17s and -19s
T-90, T-93, T-95
M1A3 (essentially the M11A2 SEP), M1A4 Giraffe, M1A5 (140mm M1A3)
German G36 in service
British L-85 largely out of service
British Corsair MBT - similar to M1A4 Giraffe
Leopard III
Both Tankbreaker and Javelin ATGMs
Heritage Aircraft Manufacturing Corp built F-4Us, P-47s, P-38s, P-51s, FW190s, A6M Zeros, etc
B-2s in service
B-1B production line re-established
F-19As armed with SRAMIIs
More F-117s
M-60A4 (essentially M-60A3 with ERA)
M-47s with ERA
F-29As and F-31s
LAHAT ATGM
Typhoons (VERY few)
British Polaris SLBMs and boomers re-enter service
LAV-75s
Greatly expanded SOF - Ranger Bns, SEALs, Green Berets, Delta, Spetsnaz, German KSK, German Marines, SAS, SBS, Commandos, Danish Marines, etc
Many more Divisions raised all around - US, British, Germans, Danes, Soviets, Japanese, Filipinos, etc.
Surviving B-52 airframes (B-52D/E/F/G)
AN-95 in limited service
M-41 Walker Bulldogs upgraded and in service
M-60A2 about 50 to 100 in service
M-8 AGS
M-10 Expeditionary Tank
LAV-105
C-17As
Su-35
MiG-35 Falroth
MiG-21-93
Mirage 4000

And there is more!!!

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