Just In: Osama is dead

[Panther Al]

I recently re-read a lot of the old 1ed stuff, and I have to say, it left me scratching my head a good bit. Beyond the idea that Colorado Springs and Fort Carson surviving (And NORAD to boot) a 3mt wakeup call, there was a lot there that didn't make a lot of sense. Oddly enough, NA wasn't one of those things more than the scale of it. I can easily see a some wacko with some brains doing something like that.

[WallShadow]

About 20 years ago I was living in Chambersburg, PA, which is
--just outside Letterkenney Army Depot (missile refurbishment, M109 overhaul, ammo disposal, and vehicle mothballling in huge oil-tank-like controlled environment structures). Rumors abounded among the locals about onsite underground hardened C-3 bunkers, anti-aircraft missile batteries concealed by innocent-looking buildings or houses, and many other interesting postulations.
--about 18 miles northwest of Ft.Ritchie, MD (support facility for Site R),
--25 miles NW from Raven Rock/Site R/Alternative Joint Communication Center/"little Pentagon",
--35 miles NW from Camp David,
--45 miles from Fort Detrick (Class 4 lab with lots of biowarfare goodies),
--20 miles N of Hagerstown, MD where Fairchild Aircraft was building the A-10 Warthog at the time.
--30 miles SW from the Carlisle Barracks/Army War College, and
--15 miles NW from Site Cannonball, a hardened communications relay/possible emergency relocation site.

Not to mention 50 miles W of BMY in York, PA (producing M88 Hercules and M109 SP guns), 60 SW of the PA National Guard HQ in Harrisburg, and 80 SW of Ft. Indiantown Gap.

Not the bullseye, but in the midst or vicinity of several fairly nice and juicy targets.
"Collateral Damage", anyone?

[dragoon500ly]

Not to mention that the Soviet Military Attache got a speeding ticket there back in 1979....and he's now the Targeting Officer for the Strategic Missile Force....

Payback?

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

I recently re-read a lot of the old 1ed stuff, and I have to say, it left me scratching my head a good bit. Beyond the idea that Colorado Springs and Fort Carson surviving (And NORAD to boot) a 3mt wakeup call, there was a lot there that didn't make a lot of sense. Oddly enough, NA wasn't one of those things more than the scale of it. I can easily see a some wacko with some brains doing something like that.

That's the problem I had with the 1st edition, it was almost like someone at GDW was throwing darts at a road map of the US. It didn't make a lot of sense.

[Legbreaker]

Once again, the maps and target lists as published only show weapons of 500 klilotonnes and up (with a few exceptions). There's a LOT of strikes which aren't shown to allow the GM some flexibility and to keep players in the dark.
Just because the books don't specifically say a particular location was nuked, doesn't mean it didn't get hit with a smaller warhead.

[Sanjuro]

I'm watching a documentary on the OBL mission (UK Channel 4) right now; it talks about the helo crash and confirms that the cause was the airflow from the rotor being trapped in the confined space of the compound- they don't use the term vortex ring, but that is it.
I like being right!

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by Sanjuro

I'm watching a documentary on the OBL mission (UK Channel 4) right now; it talks about the helo crash and confirms that the cause was the airflow from the rotor being trapped in the confined space of the compound- they don't use the term vortex ring, but that is it.
I like being right!

LOL...I watched the same programme...when they started talking about the helo crash I thought "that's exactly the way Sanjuro called it"!

[HorseSoldier]

Oddly enough, NA wasn't one of those things more than the scale of it. I can easily see a some wacko with some brains doing something like that.

New America in T2K is pretty closely cloned off of the real life National Alliance and their leader, William Pierce (whose only real main stream notice or notoreity is that he authored the Turner Diaries that Timothy McVeigh was fond of) -- only with the membership (and, I assume, the prep for the apocalypse) cranked up a lot.

If I remember right, Pierce even maintained a retreat in West Virginia, a la Hughes in Kidnapped before his death and the subsequent collapse of National Alliance into squabbling factions and such.

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by HorseSoldier

New America in T2K is pretty closely cloned off of the real life National Alliance and their leader, William Pierce (whose only real main stream notice or notoreity is that he authored the Turner Diaries that Timothy McVeigh was fond of) -- only with the membership (and, I assume, the prep for the apocalypse) cranked up a lot.

If I remember right, Pierce even maintained a retreat in West Virginia, a la Hughes in Kidnapped before his death and the subsequent collapse of National Alliance into squabbling factions and such.

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I just Googled the National Alliance website--they aren't shy about who their target audience is!