OT: Physics

[pmulcahy11b]

I was watching a DVRed Countdown with Keith Obermann (from the 24th, IIRC), and he had an interesting story that I'm definitely going to try to find out more about: there have been about 15,000 recorded instances this year of subatomic particles moving at faster than the speed of light.

At the low end -- there have been 15,000 wrong calculations this year. At the high end -- everything mankind thinks it knows about physics is wrong. Midpoint -- it is in fact possible to travel faster than the speed of light (at least for subatomic particles), and/or it's proof that the universe has more than four dimensions. Weird possibility -- the speed of light is variable or changing, and we no longer know what the speed of light actually is.

[Fusilier]

Nothing's been verified yet, not by outside scientific bodies anyways, which is where it counts. CERN made all of its finding's transparent regarding the recent neutrinos tests, even to their competitors (which is part of the beauty of science), but nobody has finished the second tier fault checking and scrutiny at this point.

My money is they are wrong. But we will see. It's still very interesting though.

[Schone23666]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I was watching a DVRed Countdown with Keith Obermann (from the 24th, IIRC), and he had an interesting story that I'm definitely going to try to find out more about: there have been about 15,000 recorded instances this year of subatomic particles moving at faster than the speed of light.

At the low end -- there have been 15,000 wrong calculations this year. At the high end -- everything mankind thinks it knows about physics is wrong. Midpoint -- it is in fact possible to travel faster than the speed of light (at least for subatomic particles), and/or it's proof that the universe has more than four dimensions. Weird possibility -- the speed of light is variable or changing, and we no longer know what the speed of light actually is.

And thinking about that very notion is already making my head hurt, hahah.

[Grimace]

I've heard that the problem is there is only one other independent facility that can actually replicate the entire test to verify. There is one other facility that can perform "partial" tests (they didn't say to what extent). That facility said that while they could test some of the aspect, they couldn't give truly accurate results in direct comparison to the CERN results.

Everyone else can only double check the math, not the actual aspects of the test, to determine if they CERN scientists goofed with a number somewhere.

My gut feeling on the whole thing is this: Humans make up things to explain the scientific world around them. They can't go through life randomly guessing, so they come up with theories and formulas and plug them in to everything until something comes along to prove them wrong. This is one of those cases (it's just been a long time in coming).

[WallShadow]

Aw, c'mon: everybody knows the universe is held together by aether....

[weswood]

Originally Posted by WallShadow

Aw, c'mon: everybody knows the universe is held together by aether....

I thought it was duct tape & chewing gum??????

[LBraden]

Originally Posted by weswood

I thought it was duct tape & chewing gum??????

No, that's Minmatar Ship's you idiot .....

[weswood]

Originally Posted by LBraden

No, that's Minmatar Ship's you idiot .....

Oh. And remind me who Minmatar is again?

[ArmySGT.]

Everybody knows that the universe we see is part of the multiverse.... Like the layers of an onion.

We get glimpses of other realities, dimensions, uninverses through what we believe to be fictional accounts.

This is all explained in Robert Heinlein's = Number of the Beast.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

This is all explained in Robert Heinlein's = Number of the Beast.

Now that's got to be on my top 10 list of favorite books.