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Old 09-19-2012, 08:09 AM
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Default The Federal Republic of Germany Navy

The Federal Republic of Germany Navy in Twilight 2000

Personnel: 34,000 personnel.

Naval Aviation: 14 Atlantic 1150 maritime patrol aircraft; 5 Atlantic 1150 EW aircraft; 22 Sea King Mk43 SAR (20 being modified to carry Sea Skua ASM, to be completed by 1991. 32 NH-90 helos on order, to be completed by 1993-95 (6 to be configured for SAR); 105 Tornado fighter-bombers; 14 WG-13 Lynx ASW helos.

0 + 12 Type 212 Diesel-Electric Submarines
Displacement of 1,200/1,800 tons. Speed of 10/17kts. Crew of 22. Armament consists of 6 533mm torpedo tubes. Slatted to enter service in the 1996-99 time frame.

18 Type 206/206A-class Diesel-Electric Submarines
S 192 U13; S 193 U 14; S 194 U 15; S 195 U16; S 196 U 17; S 197 U 18;
S 198 U 19; S 199 U 20; S 170 U 21; S 171 U 22; S 172 U 23; S 173 U 24;
S 175 U 26; S 176 U 27; S 177 U 28; S 178 U 29; S 179 U 30
Displacement of 450tons/520 tons. Speed of 10kts/17kts. Crew of 22. Armament consists of 8 533mm torpedo tubes with 16 DM-1 or DM-2 torpedoes or 16 mines. 24 mines in external removable container.

5 Type 205-class Diesel-Electric Submarine
S 181 U 2; S 188 U 9; S 189 U 10; S 190 U 11; S 191 U 12
Displacement of 419 tons/455 tons. Speed of 10kts/17kts. Crew of 22. Armament consists of 8 533mm torpedo tubes with DM 2 torpedoes. Survivors of a class of 12, first batch were striken in 1968-1992. Remainder to be retired as the Type 212-class enters service.

3 ex US Charles F. Adams-class (Type 103B) Guided Missile Destroyers
D 185 Lutjens; D 186 Molders; D 187 Rommel
Displacement of 4,720 tons. Speed of 35kts. Crew of 340. Armament consists of one single Standard MR/Harpoon launcher, two single 5in/54 Kk42, one eight-cell ASROC ASW launcher, two triple 324mm ASW torpedo tubes. Extensively modernized and expected to see service through 2002-2003.

3 Hamburg-class (Type 101B) Destroyers
D 181 Hamburg; D 182 Schleswig-Holstein; D 183 Bayern
Displacement of 4,700 tons. Speed of 35kts. Crew of 268. Armament consists of four single MM38 Exocet SSM launchers, three single 100,mm M1953 guns, four twin 40mm Bofors AA guns, two twin 533mm torpedo tubes, two six-cell 375mm Bofors ASW Mortars, two depth charge racks, 60-80 mines. Further modernizations have been cancealed. Slatted to be replaced by the new construction Type 123-class frigates.. Sister Hessen (D 184) was stricken in 1990 due to material defects.

0 + 4 Brandenburg-class (Type 123) Frigates
F 215 Brandenburg; F 216 Schleswig-Holstein; F 217 Bayern;
F 218 Mecklenburg Vorpommern
Displacement of 4,490 tons. Speed of 29kts. Crew of 219. Armament consists of two twin MM38 Exocet SSM launchers, one 16-cell Mk41 VLS w/ NATO Sea Sparrow SAM missiles, two 20-cell Mk49 RAM point defense SAM launchers with US RIM-116A SAMs, one single 76mm OTO Melare gun, two twin 324mm ASW torpedo tubes, 2 Lynx helos. Modified Type 122 “figs”, built with steel superstructures and extensive signature reduction measures. Slatted to be in service in the 1995-96 time frame, replacing the Hamburg-class destroyers.

8 Bremen-class (Type 122) Frigates
F 207 Bremen; F 208 Niedersachsen; F 209 Rheinland-Pfalz; F 210 Emden;
F 211 Koln; F 212 Karlsruhe; F 213 Augsberg; F 214 Lubeck
Displacement of 3,800 tons. Speed of 30kts. Crew of 199. Armament consists of two quad Harpoon SSM launchers, one eight-cell NATO Sea Sparrow SAM launcher, one single 76mm OTO Melara gun, four single 324mm ASW torpedo tubes, 2 Lynx helos. A “Germanized” version of the Dutch Kortenaer-class. Scheduled to start a modernization in the 1992-97 time frame, will add two RAM point defense SAM launchers as well as measures to reduce their radar signature. At various times, has been fitted with one Goalkeeper CIWS (3-4 on loan from the Dutch Navy).

3 Thetis-class (Type 42) Corvettes
P 6053 Hermes; P 6055 Triton; P 6056 Theseus
Displacement of 648 tons. Speed of 23.5kts. Crew of 48. Armament consists of one twin 40mm Bofors AA Guns, one six-cell 375mm Bofors ASW mortar, four single 324mm ASW torpedo tubes, 2 depth charge racks and can carry up to 30 mines. Last of a class of six. In the process of being decommissioned and transferred to the Greek Navy.

10 Type 143A Guided Missile Patrol Boats
P 6121 Gepard; P 6122 Puma; P 6123 Hermelin; P 6124 Nerz; P 6125 Zobel;
P 6126 Frettchen; P 6127 Dachs; P 6128 Ozelot; P 6129 Wiesel; P 6130 Hyane
Displacement of 391 tons. Speed of 36kts. Crew of 34. Armament consists of two twin MM38 Exocet SSM launchers, one 76mm OTO Melara gun, up to 10 mines. Modified Type 142-class to be fitted with a RAM 21-cell point defense SAM launcher in the 1992-1997 period.

10 Type 143/143B-class Guided Missile Patrol Boats
P 6111 Albatros; P 6112 Falke; P 6113 Geier; P 6114 Bussard; P 6115 Sperber; P 6116 Grief; P 6117 Kondor; P 6118 Seeadler; P 6119 Habicht;
P 6120 Kormoran
Displacement of 393 tons. Speed of 36kts. Crew of 34. Armament consists of two twin MM38 Exocet SSM launchers; two single 76mm OTO Melara, two single 533mm torpedo tubes. To be modernized , deleting the torpedo tubes, adding mine racks (up to 10 mines) as well as a RAM 21-cell point defense SAM launcher. This program is dated for the 1997-2000 time frame.

20 Type 148-class Guided Missile Patrol Boats
P 6141 Tiger; P 6142 Iltis; P 6143 Luchs; P 6144 Marder; P 6145 Leopard;
P 6146 Fuchs; P 6147 Jaguar; P 6148 Lowe; P 6149 Wolf; P 6150 Panther;
P 6151 Haher; P 6152 Storch; P 6153 Pelikan; P 6154 Elster; P 6155 Alk;
P 6156 Dommel; P 6157 Weihe; P 6158 Pinguin; P 6159 Reiher; P 6160 Kranich
Displacement of 264 tons. Speed of 35.8kts. Crew of 30. Armament consists of two twin MM38 Exocet SSM launchers, one single 76mm OTO Melara gun, one single 40mm Bofors AA gun, can carry 8 mines in place of the 40mm. Built in France as the Combattante II A4L-class. Modernized with better electronics, but no changes to the weapons systems. Slatted for disposal in the 1999-2000 time frame.

0 + 10 Type 332-class coastal mine hunters
M 1060 Weiden; M 1061 Rottweil; M 1062 Sulzbach-Rosenberg; M 1063 Bad Rappenau; M 1064 Gromitz; M 1065 Dillingen; M 1066 Frankenthal; M 1067 Bad Bevensen; M 1068 Datteln; M 1069 Homburg
Displacement of 650 tons. Speed of 24.5kts. Crew of 30. Armament consists of one single 40mm Bofors AA Gun, one hand-held Stinger MANPADS. Carries the Pinguin B3 remote-controlled mine location/destruction submersible as well as four mine-clearance divers. Slatted to enter service in 1993-95

10 Type 343-class Minesweepers/Minelayers
M 1090 Pegnitz; M 1091 Kulmbach; M 1092 Hameln; M 1093 Auerbach; M 1094 Ernsdorf; M 1095 Uberherrn; M 1096 Passau; M 1097 Laboe; M 1098 Siegburg; M 1099 Herten
Displacement of 620 tons. Speed of 24.5kts. Crew of 37. Armament consists of two single 40mm Bofors AA guns, two Stinger MANPAS, up to 60 mines. Slatted to be modernized to act as Troika-drone control vessels and to carry the Pinguin remote-controlled mine location/destruction submersible.

6 Type 351 Drone Minesweeper Control Ships
M 1073 Schleswig; M 1076 Paderborn; M 1079 Duren; M 1081 Konstanz;
M 1082 Wolfsburg; M 1083 Ulm
Displacement of 488 tons. Speed of 16.5kts. Crew of 44. Armament consists of one single 40mm Bofors AA gun. Designed to control up to three Troika drone minesweepers.

18 Type HL 351 Troika-class Minesweeping Drones
Numbered from Seehund 1 to Seehund 18
Displacement of 96.5 tons. Speed of 9.4kts. Crew of 3 (transit only). Unamred. Essentially remote-controlled, self-propelled magnetic minesweepers that can also tow two sets of mechanical minesweeping gear. Normally operates in sets of three attached to a Type 351-class control ship.

11 Type 331A/B-class Minehunters
M 1070 Gottingen; M 1071 Koblenz; M 1072 Lindau; M 1074 Tubingen; M 1075 Wetzlar; M 1077 Weilheim; M 1078 Cuxhaven; M 1080 Marburg; M 1085 Minden; M 1086 Fulda, M 1087 Volklingen
Displacement of 402 tons. Speed of 17kts. Crew of 43. Armament consists of one single 40mm Bofors AA gun. Carries six min clearance divers and two remote-controlled mine hunting devices.

5 Type 340/341-class Patrol Minesweepers
M 1053 Stier; M 1054 Pollux; M 1058 Mars; M 1059 Spica; M 1062 Schutze
Displacement of 280 tons. Speed of 24.6kts. Crew of 36. Armament consists of one single 40mm Bofors AA gun and up to 30 mines. Survivors of a class of 30 built in the late 1950s. Being retired with the last set to de-commission in 1996.

10 Type 394 Inshore Minesweepers
M 2658 Frauenlob; M 2659 Nautilus; M 2660 Gefion; M 2661 Medusa; M 2662 Undine; M 2663 Minerva; M 2664 Diana; M 2665 Loreley; M 2666 Atlantis;
M 2667 Acheron
Displacement of 246 tons. Speed of 14.3kts Crew of 25. Armament consists of one single 40mm AA gun.

6 Type 393 Inshore Minesweepers
M 2651 Freya; M 2653 Hertha; M 2654 Nymphe; M 2655 Nixe; M 2656 Amazone; M 2657 Gazelle
Displacement of 252 tons. Speed of 14.3kts. Crew of 25. Armament consists of one sigle 40mm Bofors AA gun.

14 Type 520 Utility Landing Craft
Displacement of 403 tons. Speed of 11kts. Crew of 17. Armament consists of one twin 20mm AA guns Able to transport up to 237 tons of cargo.

17 Type 521 Landing Craft
Displacement of 168 tons. Speed of 10.6kts. Crew of 7. Unarmed. Carries 60 tons of cargo or up to 50 troops. Eleven are in reserve.

Source is the “Combat Fleets of the World: 1993”
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:43 AM
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A question - how much of the East German navy do you think came over to the West German navy when the East Germans joined up with them after the start of war?

Are you using the classic timeline for your navies or the V2.2 version of the timeline
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:49 PM
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Following the unification, the Volksmarine (East German navy) had surprisingly short service lives in the new German Navy. Dates for their disposal are: Knoi-class frigates Rostock (1991), Halle (1991), Berlin der Haupstadt der DDR (1991). The sixteen Parchim-class Corvettes were discardred in 1991-
92. The five Tarantul I-class guided missile boats were all stricken in 1991. The nine Sassnitz-class patrol boats have been decommissioned from the Navy and waiting on the decision to scrap, although there is a proposal
(1993) to turn four over to the Sea Border Patrol.

The story is the same for the Kondor II-class minesweepers and Frosch-class landing ships, by 1991, they have all been decommissioned or sold to other countries.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:01 PM
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So a question then - are your naval dispositions reflecting the V2.2 timeline of a reunified Germany or the original timeline where the Germans only reunified after the war began and thus the East Germany navy ships would have still be in service since the two Germanies never reunified prior to that
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The original timeline.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:40 AM
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Thanks for the info - by the way love the naval posts you have been making - navies were ignored in many ways in the game, with throw away timeline posts like the last fleet was shattered kind of thing but no real details (for instance leaving out the one appendix in Going Home that actually detailed the ships in the Omega fleet so we have no idea how many escorts it had) or totally unrealistic fights like the one described in Satellite Down.

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