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Old 04-27-2013, 12:00 PM
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Default Turkish "Escape from Kalisz" variant game start

Was looking thru various of the alternate game start scenarios here and wondered if anyone had ever thought of doing a Turkish "Escape from Kalisz" variant - but instead of being Poland in July of 2000, its set in Bulgaria in September of 1997 as the Turkish 1st Army collapses under the Soviet and Bulgarian attack, including nuclear strikes?

Would be an interesting variant as the equipment and personnel would be that of the Turkish Army with possibly some US Special Forces or light air mobile units cutoff along with them, with them either trying to fight their way to friendly Romanian or Yugoslavian units (only to find out the Russians had overrun them too) or back to Turkey somehow.

Considering the lack of Turkish air power by then (I can imagine the kind of losses they would take against a combo of Greece, Russian, Italian and Bulgarian air power) most likely friendly air power would be a thing of the past as anything left would be desperately trying to stop the drive on Istanbul.

Also be a great way to bring Bulgarian and Greek units into the game as adversaries - something that the modules never really did, as Greece was really only mentioned (and very lightly at that) in Med Cruise.
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An example of the changes would be to the Vehicle Equipment Chart

The Vehicle Table for a Turkish Kalisz would be:

1 3/4 ton truck
2 3/4 ton truck
3 Land Rover Defender (produced under license in Turkey)
4 Land Rover Defender
5 Land Rover Defender
6 Otokar Akrep APC (APC build on the Land Rover Defender chassis)
7 BMC 185-09 B 2.5 ton truck
8 BMC 235-16 P 5 ton truck
9 BMC 235-16 P 5 ton truck
10 ACV-300-APC (Turkish version of the AIFV in APC config)
11 M113
12 BMC 380-26 10 ton truck
13 ACV-300-AIFV (Turkish version of the AIFV)
14 M113 with a pintle mount TOW launcher used as a TD
15 M48A5
16 M48A5
17 M60A3
18 Leopard I

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Old 05-01-2013, 03:10 PM
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Another difference would be ranks as well

Turkish rank structure for players would be as follows

Enlisted
1 Er (Private)
2 Onbaşı (Corporal)
3 Çavuş (Sergeant)
4 Çavuş (Sergeant)
5 Astsubay Çavuş (Staff Sergeant)
6 Astsubay Üstçavuş (Sergeant First Class)
7 Astsubay Başçavuş (First Sergeant/Master Sergeant)
8 Astsubay Kıdemli Başçavuş (Sergeant Major)

Officer
1 Teğmen (2nd Lieutenant)
2 Üsteğmen (1st Lieutenant)
3 Üsteğmen (1st Lieutenant)
4 Yüzbaşı (Captain)
5 Yüzbaşı (Captain)
6 Binbaşı (Major)
7 Binbaşı (Major)
8 Yarbay (Lt. Colonel)
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