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Old 02-07-2014, 07:40 AM
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Default Rebuilding Texas - Highest Priority Resources?

So...

The 1st CD just landed in Galveston, quietly.

After securing Galveston, building basic infrastructure and food production for itself and the small population that remained after the nuclear strikes and Mexican invasion, whats next?

What resources would you prioritize and how would you get them?

1 - Oil?
2 - Salt?
3 - Coal?
4 - Horses?
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:08 AM
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I would say oil. It is literally (semi)circled by oilfields. The local refineries (if anything survives) apparently were able to produce significant amounts of sulfur.

THis is what I have for local resources:

Here are the nearest 25 fields

18.7 km E of Greens Lake Oil Field
23.2 km E of Sarah White Oil Field
23.2 km ExSE of Franks Oil Field
25.2 km SE of Dickinson Gillock Oil Field
25.5 km ExSE of Alta Loma Oil Field
26.1 km S of Redfish Reef Oil Field
28.2 km S of Smith Point Oil Field
31.6 km SxSW of Mays Oil Field
33.3 km SE of League City Oil Field
35.3 km SxSW of Lake Stephenson Oil Field
35.7 km SxSW of White Lake Oil Field
36.4 km ExSE of Algoa Oil Field
36.7 km E of Chocolate Bayou Oil Field
37.5 km S of Umbrella Point Oil Field
40.0 km SxSE of Cedar Point Oil Field
43.8 km S of Fishers Reef Oil Field
45.0 km ExSE of Hastings Oil Field
45.0 km E of Rowan Oil Field
45.7 km SE of Friendswood Oil Field
45.9 km SE of Clear Lake Oil Field
48.7 km E of Danbury Dome Oil Field
48.9 km SxSE of Goose Creek Oil Field
50.8 km S of Trinity Bay Oil Field
51.4 km S of Jergins Oil Field
53.1 km S of South Cotton Lake Oil Field



Here are the closest renewable/nuclear powerplants

76.4 km SE of Sunset Farms - Land Fill Gas - 2219 kWT
129.7 km ExNE of South Texas 2 - # of reactors: 2 - 1280/1280 Mwt
197.7 km WxSW of Agrilectric Power Partners Ltd - Agra Waste - 7884 kWT
238.3 km SxSW of Toledo Bend - 40097 kWT
254.3 km E of Small Hydro Of Texas Inc - 762 kWT
301.6 km ExSE of Austin - 6296 kWT
319.7 km ExSE of Marshall Fd - 19419 kWT
328.3 km W of M A Patout Son Ltd - Agra Waste - 176 kWT
354.6 km E of Falcon Dam - 4154 kWT
361.6 km ExSE of Marble Fls - 3245 kWT
372.0 km ExSE of Granite Sh - 4777 kWT
374.4 km WxSW of River Bend 1 - # of reactors: 1 - 978 Mwt
377.9 km ExSE of Buchanan - 3882 kWT
405.9 km SW of Sidney A Murray Jr Hydroelectric Station - 96124 kWT
428.4 km SxSE of Nolte - 8960 kWT
435.6 km SE of Comanche Peak - # of reactors: 2 - 1084/1124 Mwt
438.4 km W of Waterford 3 - # of reactors: 1 - 1089 Mwt
463.2 km SxSE of DFW Gas Recovery - Land Fill Gas - 4496 kWT
466.0 km SxSE of Lewisville - 1277 kWT
468.3 km SE of H 4/5 - 2876 kWT
478.8 km ExSE of M Sheppard - 1899 kWT
483.2 km SW of Grand Gulf 1 - # of reactors: 1 - 1263 Mwt
505.9 km SxSE of Roberts - 285 kWT
513.1 km SxSW of Crossett Paper - Wood Waste - 190 kWT
523.1 km SxSE of Denison - 40356 kWT


Here are the closest mines
53.2 km SxSW of Laporte/Deerpark Plants Div Of Texas Brine - Salt
63.5 km E of Chemicals & Metals - Magnesium
63.5 km E of Freeport Plant - Salt
71.1 km SE of Hockley Plant - Salt
71.1 km SE of Swilley Pit & Plant - Industrial Sand And Gravel
71.1 km SE of Pierce Junction Plant - Salt
88.0 km SW of Jefferson Plant - Salt
97.0 km S of Tec Minerals Plant 3 - Industrial Sand And Gravel
100.2 km ExSE of Blue Ridge Plant - Salt
123.8 km ExNE of Clemville Plant - Salt
129.4 km SxSW of Barry & Barry Pit & Plant - Industrial Sand And Gravel
163.5 km E of Eagle Lake Plant - Industrial Sand And Gravel
163.5 km E of Industrial Sand Operations - Industrial Sand And Gravel
176.7 km SW of Industrial Chemical Division - Salt
205.1 km ExSE of Balcones Minerals Corp - Fuller'S Earth
205.1 km ExSE of Flatonia Pits - Bentonite
214.8 km SxSW of Deweyville Dredge - Industrial Sand And Gravel
221.0 km S of Angelina County Pits - Bentonite
238.9 km SW of Kinder Plant - Industrial Sand And Gravel
250.1 km ExSE of Hicks Mine
262.2 km E of Texas Pits - Bentonite
280.6 km S of Troup Operations - Ball Clay
299.3 km W of Avery Island - Salt
299.3 km W of Morton Salt Weeks Island Mine And Plant - Salt
299.9 km ExNE of Corpus Christi - Salt


Mineral Plants
9.6 km SxSE of Texas City Refinery - Sulfur
9.6 km SxSE of Galveston Barite Plant - Barite
9.6 km SxSE of Galveston County Operations - Sulfur
53.2 km SxSW of Laporte/Deerpark Plants Div Of Texas Brine - Salt
63.5 km E of Freeport Plant - Salt
63.5 km E of Sweeny Plant - Sulfur
63.5 km E of Chemicals & Metals - Magnesium
71.1 km SE of Hockley Plant - Salt
71.1 km SE of Baytown Refinery - Sulfur
71.1 km SE of Deer Park - Sulfur
71.1 km SE of Deer Park Plant - Sulfur
71.1 km SE of Harris County Operations - Sulfur
71.1 km SE of Houston - Sulfur
71.1 km SE of Vermiculite Products Inc - Vermiculite
71.1 km SE of Houston Division - Sulfur
71.1 km SE of Laporte Plant - Perlite
71.1 km SE of Swilley Pit & Plant - Industrial Sand And Gravel
88.0 km SW of Port Arthur Refinery - Sulfur
88.0 km SW of Beaumont Refinery - Sulfur
88.0 km SW of Port Arthur Plant - Sulfur
88.0 km SW of Port Arthur Refinery - Sulfur
97.0 km S of Tec Minerals Plant 3 - Industrial Sand And Gravel
100.2 km ExSE of Blue Ridge Plant - Salt
129.4 km SxSW of Barry & Barry Pit & Plant - Industrial Sand And Gravel
163.5 km E of Industrial Sand Operations - Industrial Sand And Gravel


Chemical Plants
10.9 km SE of Gaf Corporation - Organic Chemicals | Employees 200
12.5 km SW of Climax Chemical Company - Muriate Of Potash | Employees 3
14.4 km SE of Gaf Corporation - Industrial Gases | Employees 200
14.7 km SE of Union Carbide Corporation - Industrial Gases | Employees 1400
23.5 km SE of Sea Lion Chemical Inc - Organic Chemicals | Employees 38
36.2 km SxSE of Calgon Corporation Delaware - Medicine/Botanical Chemicals | Employees 38
37.4 km SxSE of Polycom-Huntsman Inc - Inorganic Chemicals | Employees 200
39.3 km SE of Haldor Topsoe Inc - Catalysts Chemical | Employees 41
39.8 km SxSE of Hoechst Clanese Chemical Group - Organic Chemicals | Employees 35
40.1 km E of Monsanto Company - High Purity Chemicals | Employees 887
41.5 km SxSE of Dixie Chemical Company - Inorganic Chemicals | Employees 200
41.6 km SxSE of Amoco Chemical Company - Medicine/Botanical Chemicals | Employees 45
41.8 km SxSE of Haldor Topsoe Inc - Catalysts Chemical | Employees 43
41.9 km SxSE of Phillips Petroleum Company - Catalysts Chemical | Employees 160
42.3 km SxSE of Bayshore Industrial Inc - Plastics | Employees 50
42.4 km SxSE of Arco Chemical Company - Propylene | Employees 300
42.6 km SxSE of Lonza Inc - Inorganic Metal Compounds | Employees 80
42.7 km SxSE of Hoechst Celanese Corporation - Org A/Cyclic Plasticizers | Employees 250
42.8 km SxSE of Fmc Corporation - Bulk Org Medicinal Chemicals | Employees 58
43.2 km SxSE of Hoechst Clanese Chemical Group - Inorganic Chemicals | Employees 650
43.2 km SxSE of Himont Usa Inc - Polypropylene Resins | Employees 155
44.3 km SxSE of Southern Ionics Inc - Inorganic Chemicals | Employees 30
44.6 km SE of Kaneka Texas Corporation - Plastics Materials | Employees 85
44.7 km SxSE of Cain Chemical Inc - Ethylene Glycols | Employees 100
45.0 km SxSE of Ppg Industries Inc - Organic Chemicals | Employees 100
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:29 AM
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Oil has GOT to be the #1 priority. Followed by refining capacity. Even if the CD lands with T55's or T64's, you MUST have fuel and lubricants to keep those monsters able to move.

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I was also wondering about building materials...

Concrete? Brick? Standard wood framing?

Would making concrete be a feasible option in the opening days or is it all existing or rubble built construction to start?
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oil first for sure - getting production going again of lubricants and diesel fuel is key and the reason Texas is vital to US interests

after that getting food production going again - again oil can be used to get tractors moving again, making large scale farming possible

as for housing - there should be lots of building materials available to use for housing even if you have to scavenge them from damaged buildings
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Once infrastructrure is in place, shelter, food, water, etc the next thing would be the most natural resource, the Oil Fields. The main problem would be parts for long shut down and most likely damaged facility's. I would bet good money more than half would be total losses to weather, fires, and looting of various kinds so many of those places would be stripped to get other oil fields working and pumping again. It would be even worse for the refinerys which need somewhat more specialized equipment to function 100% and would suffer just as much damage over the years from looters looking for fuel, weather, and people just going in and doing damage because they can. And lets not bring up the amount of power a Refinery needs to run or the ability to transport raw crude from the Oil Fields to the Refinery itself!
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My story line helps address the "parts" portion of the refinery problem...

I was using the "Pennsylvania Crude" story from Challenge Magazine as a way to detail the process on a small scale in TX.

Horses,assuming food is abundant would be something that would take awhile to develop as well no?
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Good Heavens, Kato! That is some thorough research right there.
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Good Heavens, Kato! That is some thorough research right there.
The research is already done. Just a matter of pulling it from my database. It takes about 10 clicks.

It was originally developed for morrow project games where rebuilding would be a priority (theoretically).

I need to tweak a few things, (like i wanted to find the nearest limestone in regards making concrete as the sand and gravel is right there), but in its current form it is very useful.
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Anyone have anything on coal or iron mines in Texas? I found a San Miguel Coal Mine near San Antonio but its not on Katos list...
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Anyone have anything on coal or iron mines in Texas? I found a San Miguel Coal Mine near San Antonio but its not on Katos list...
Strangely the mine does not appear to be in the EPA database.

This mapping system is similar to mine and has similar data
http://www.epa.gov/emefdata/em4ef.home

Very useful for finding stuff but apparently not complete.
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