Project Artillery

[mmartin798]

Originally Posted by Project_Sardonicus

nb The Israelis in the 1980s added laser homing kits to their TOW missiles and bigger engines then called them LAHATS. The SADF bought them, copied the design etc and called them Ingwes and used them to destroy many SWAPO/Cuban tanks. So this hobby craft approach to improving on primitive weapons isn't so unusual.

You are pretty much describing APKWS. It is a guidance module that is placed between the Mk 60 motor and the warhead/fuze assembly. It is not much more complicated than screwing APKWS to the motor and the warhead to the APKWS.

[ArmySGT.]

Um........MLRS can shoot rockets one at a time if desired. The rockets themselves are pretty precise with the launcher knowing it location with GPS and inertial navigation. MLRS has more options than submunitions and the ATACMS. Further, most modern anti tank submunitions steer themselves toward large metallic heat sources.

Further, MLRS is used for counter battery fire and more importantly the "Deep fires" missions that the large 203mm guns used to perform........ hitting when the other guy can't hit back and raining hell on his rear area concentrations or movement corridors.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

And was a part of some Green Beret camp equipment in Vietnam. I would like a more varied mortar section, and stuff like this for special groups. The M102 would make quite a dragon for the team to slay. An M226 60MM mortar has a place in light team's special item list.

Probably why it is used extensively by the KFS.

One of the major problems for the French and later the Americans in Viet Nam was the soviet supplied 130mm D-30 howitzers.... Getting hit and you can't hit back because the other guy can shoot further and accurately too ....... well, that really, really pegs the suck-o-meter at maximum.

[ArmySGT.]

Battery fire / Counter Battery fire works in two scenarios..... their tubes fire first or yours fire first.

Their tubes fire first....... preferable... You get all yours to fire back.

You fire first......
Your self propelled is moving immediately upon completion of their fire mission....... towed is waiting.... tied with counter battery radar. When the enemy fires his counter battery mission , your towed fires theirs in counter-counter battery. MLRS is in the commanders tool box with two important missions....... immediate suppression and counter battery fire. The MLRS in counter battery is excellent. The basic package outranges most gun artillery and with the larger affected impact area doesn't need precision to be overwhelmingly effective. You're raining mixed AP and AT submuntions (some with internal guidance) onto a 1km by 1 km square.

Immediate suppression is to disrupt or delay and enemy breakthrough of your own positions again by wrecking everything in a very large impact area.

[mmartin798]

I have to stand corrected. I made an incorrect assumption about the 127mm rocket used on the Valkiri. After doing research, the Denel V3 is a copy of the AIM-9/MIM-72 Chaparral. As the AIM-9 is in the Morrow supply chain, a "dumbed down" version for the Valkiri is not unreasonable addition to the supply with little additional training needed for Project members handling them.

[.45cultist]

Stats for heavy pieces can be useful if the KFS decides it needs more advanced tools to counter Morrow teams or even Krell, surely his minions haven't missed the expansion detailed in "Fall Back".

[cosmicfish]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Um........MLRS can shoot rockets one at a time if desired. The rockets themselves are pretty precise with the launcher knowing it location with GPS and inertial navigation.

They are pretty precise (a) for artillery and (b) assuming that they have GPS. Artillery is not generally needed to be very precise and the control system on the MLRS warhead is engineering to that standard - you won't put one through a window without a heck of a lot of luck. And Morrow cannot plan on having GPS, perhaps just at first, perhaps not until someone creates a new space program. There are alternatives, but they quickly get ugly for missiles.

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Further, MLRS is used for counter battery fire and more importantly the "Deep fires" missions that the large 203mm guns used to perform........ hitting when the other guy can't hit back and raining hell on his rear area concentrations or movement corridors.

I don't see why TMP would be performing these kinds of long-range attacks unless we are talking about the thousands against thousands kind of conflict that TMP is intrinsically poorly positioned to fight. If you are targeting an enemy 20+miles away, how do you have good intelligence on who you are targeting, and what are the odds that they have conveniently isolated themselves from the kind of collateral damage you cannot afford? If you are in a counter-battery operation, you are either facing an enemy well beyond your ability to handle (i.e., LARGE) or you are facing an enemy that could be taken down by other tools and tactics.