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I haven't seen anything authoritative that says more than two years from when Article 15 is invoked (give or take a couple of months). Granted, it may depend on the definition of 'unwrangle' - there could be issues to be addressed that could drag on after the formal exit process is completed.
The EU seems to want a quicker UK exit than the UK itself at the moment. The timeframe after Article 50 in invoked is two years but its the renegotiation of political and trade agreements between Britain and the EU, and the removal of adoption of European laws and commercial red tape that will take much longer.


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Yeah, the situation in NI is obviously a lot more complicated. I did see an item on the news less than an hour ago that there has been a rush of people from Northern Ireland applying for Republic passports. I suspect some people in the NI Assembly will be watching what happens in Edinburgh over the weeks and months that follow.
There talking now about reopening border controls between the North and South and all that entails.
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So, the sudden and rapid drop of the Pound is deliberate currency manipulation by the anti-Brexiters? That's some tinfoil hat stuff right there.



Because we have national referendums here in the U.S.A.?

Or because the Brexit somehow increases the likelihood of Trump winning the presidential election? He's not one of the elite?
The fact that the pound went thru the roof when they thought they were going to remain and then dropped like a stone when it was Leave shows deliberate manipulation and panic on the side of the currency traders - Britain isn't Greece and the pound isn't the drachma - plus I highly doubt the EU is going to cut themselves off from the British market - and actually the pound dropping means better ability for them to export

And no Trump isn't one of the elite - he has money but at heart he is a street brawler - he isn't into political correctness, is definitely a nationalist and sees globalism as a direct threat to the American economy - all of which by the way are directly contradicted by the elite in this country

Trump has actually made a lot of money running actual businesses - most of the elite in the US couldn't run a hamburger stand at the county fair
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most of the elite in the US couldn't run a hamburger stand at the county fair
One of my favorite stories of government waste relates to just that.

'According to charts shown by Republican committee staff members during the hearing, Amtrak charges about $2 for a soft drink, but the cost to taxpayers is about $3.40 when labor is included. A $9.50 hamburger on the train costs taxpayers $16, the charts showed"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/us...dit-finds.html
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So it's attitude rather than socio-economic status that defines "elite"? Being born into millions has nothing to do with it? Interesting.

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he has money but at heart he is a street brawler - he isn't into political correctness, is definitely a nationalist and sees globalism as a direct threat to the... economy - all of which by the way are directly contradicted by the elite in this country
For a second there, I thought you were describing Hitler (after the "has money part").

Trump has made a lot of money, yes. He's also lost a lot. The dude's declared bankruptcy how many times?

Hey, at least he's respectful towards his political opponents, women, minorities, and other nations, right?

Good lord. I worry for our future.
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For a second there, I thought you were describing Hitler (after the "has money part").
And I thought he was describing Vladimir Putin...
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. The dude's declared bankruptcy how many times?
Most people say between 5-10. Then ask how many entities Trump has his name on. The answer is about 500. Then ask if that is a good performance for an entrepreneur who is often trying things in new fields. -Scott Adams

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1461570...d-anti-trumper

Posted 5 days ago so it was fresh in my head.

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Most people say between 5-10. Then ask how many entities Trump has his name on. The answer is about 500. Then ask if that is a good performance for an entrepreneur who is often trying things in new fields. -Scott Adams

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1461570...d-anti-trumper

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One of my favorite stories of government waste relates to just that.

'According to charts shown by Republican committee staff members during the hearing, Amtrak charges about $2 for a soft drink, but the cost to taxpayers is about $3.40 when labor is included. A $9.50 hamburger on the train costs taxpayers $16, the charts showed"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/us...dit-finds.html
A brothel owner in Nevada skipped the country without paying taxes on his $10 million revenue. The U.S. took his cathouse and in 1 year this 10 million dollar business went bankrupt under Govt ownership.
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So it's attitude rather than socio-economic status that defines "elite"? Being born into millions has nothing to do with it? Interesting.



For a second there, I thought you were describing Hitler (after the "has money part").

Trump has made a lot of money, yes. He's also lost a lot. The dude's declared bankruptcy how many times?

Hey, at least he's respectful towards his political opponents, women, minorities, and other nations, right?

Good lord. I worry for our future.
Plenty of rich aren't "elite", the group has to let you in and accept you as "one of them". Money alone just puts you in a higher "useful people" category.
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Plenty of rich aren't "elite", the group has to let you in and accept you as "one of them". Money alone just puts you in a higher "useful people" category.
If you're arguing that Trump isn't a "Washington insider", OK. If you're arguing that most other rich people don't accept Donald Trump as one of their own... um, no.
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A brothel owner in Nevada skipped the country without paying taxes on his $10 million revenue. The U.S. took his cathouse and in 1 year this 10 million dollar business went bankrupt under Govt ownership.
Ergo, the USG as a whole must be a failure because it can't run a brothel.

<rolleyes>

I'd love to hear all the stories of corporations successfully running countries.
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I think that endorsement is hilarious.
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I think that endorsement is hilarious.
I think it reads like someone who is paranoid and delusional.

PS: I mean, this is a moron who equates wearing a v-neck sweater with the loss of their masculinity. http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1463614...n-male-in-2016

Try wearing a tie shit-for-brains and you'll understand why the v-neck sweater was invented. It's not about womyn owning your balls. It's about staying warm in the winter, when you are wearing a shirt and a fucking tie.

Jezus.. how fucking retard can people be...

PSS: You know who wears ties fucknuggets? http://www.ebay.com/sch/Donald-Trump..._739507/i.html

PSSS: And guess who wears mothertrucking vneck sweaters: http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/20...omment-page-2/

I weep for the future of our world. Mostly because of the plethora of morons who are in it.

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He is a comedian who has been writing a successful and well loved comic for decades now.

He did get threats against his life when he stated he felt Trump was going to win on the Bill Mahr show. So that was his response.
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He is a comedian who has been writing a successful and well loved comic for decades now.

He did get threats against his life when he stated he felt Trump was going to win on the Bill Mahr show. So that was his response.
Ah yes, let's roll this moron out to support the argument and when his galactic retardation is brought to light, then, then he's a 'comedian'.

By that logic, Trump will go back to being an 'entertainer' when it becomes clear that he's not a masculine messiah or whatever these morons believe he is now.

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I'd love to hear all the stories of corporations successfully running countries.
And here is 8 hours of cricket sounds to go along with this question...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ZwwWeO6DI
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So we tangentially discuss politics and the following is uttered

Hitler (of course where is any political argument with out this.)

fucking retard

fucknuggets

morons

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