Ebola case now confirmed in Dallas

[Olefin]

Actually Kato I was referring more to the isolation methods that were put in place and bans on travel that in the book stopped the spread dead - those came from bio war plans the US government was using at the time.

have to read that book -that sounds like an interesting book

[Cdnwolf]

Originally Posted by Olefin

Surprised yet that I havent heard any news outlet mention the Tom Clancy book "Executive Orders" about an ebola outbreak in the US - shows that most aren't really that well read.

Great minds think alike. All i know about ebola and how it works I got from that book. But reading up on the HOT ZONE.... wow


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hot_Zone

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Cdnwolf

Great minds think alike. All i know about ebola and how it works I got from that book. But reading up on the HOT ZONE.... wow

When Stephen King says the first chapter is the scariest thing he ever read (and it is a true story) you have to take notice.

Back to Exec Orders, I think that Clancy ended up being a mixed bag in terms of being accurate. On the one hand the expectation the every subsequent generation of Ebola gets weaker does not seem to be panning out in the outbreak (at least in Africa). But he did correctly cover the fact that people in first world nations would be less likely to contract the disease due to simple things like better dental care, lack of skin lesions, and fewer chronic infections.

[stormlion1]

For some reason when it comes to Virus outbreaks I think of the book Rainbow Six for some reason. Actually me and some buds were actually trying to figure out what we would need to operate in a world with a mass outbreak of some kind of virus. Came down to buying full body raingear with hoods and gas masks with plastic bags over socks in rubber boots and rubber gloves and spray bottles full of alcohol or bleach to decontaminate after going out. The use of Duct tape to seal off any open area's as well and maybe cheap plastic aprons that can be thrown away as a extra barrier.

Yeah, we have to much free time at work.

[.45cultist]

Ebola is small enough to get through biological gas mask filters if airborne, also it's too primitive to fight effectively. Ebola makes a good boogyman in game terms, but the PC's would need to be immune. Real life terms, having enough supplies and isolation are the best defense.

[Cdnwolf]

Doctor in New York City now confirmed to have Ebola.

[kato13]

Another case where screenings did not catch it. He was a high risk candidate (treated patients in W Africa).

Now we watch for secondary infections. If there is one beyond his girlfriend people will start to get scared.

On the plus side the two Dallas nurses never got below "fair" condition (and that was mostly due to travel stress) and seem to be on the way to a full recovery.

Another positive development is that French researchers are looking at mass producing a urine/blood stick test which will detect Ebola before one shows symptoms. (Link)

[Cdnwolf]

Stupid thing is he was a doctor coming back from an Ebola hotspot. He should have know to isolate himself for at least 21 days before going into public.

[stormlion1]

People think themselves immune until proven otherwise. So they go out and do there normal thing. NY and NJ have started 21 day quarantines now at point of travel from Africa. About time.

[.45cultist]

I was told by someone who used to plan for these events that if you see symptoms for Ebola, it's too late.

[unkated]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

Ebola is small enough to get through biological gas mask filters if airborne, also it's too primitive to fight effectively. Ebola makes a good boogyman in game terms, but the PC's would need to be immune.

Or having survived. Hmmm. You could have a unit formed of early survivors, mostly military, for relief duties, and then have things fall further apart, leaving the group on their own.

Say, a doctor or nurse with extra training (for medical centric tasks), an engineer (for infrastructure tasks), and N grunts for muscle & boots ('just hold this, and hand it to me when I ask; you two lift on my command') and security.

... And two weeks in, the team gets a radio message from CDC regional HQ "There is a mob outside trying to break in here, I guess for food or medicine, and I have only six troops left not in a ward. Damn, I can hear them breaking in. You're going to have to go to the next regional HQ and try to contact them. I'd say try Cleveland, but they've been offline for three days.

"Good Luck, your on your own." (how else would it start? )

On the plus side, infrastructure would at least exist, although it would probably run down or be turned off to avoid untended damage.

As a game, you would have an immediate chaotic period, but no definitive opposition. You'd have to jump ahead a bit to get an organized opposition bigger than a gang, IMHO.

Uncle Ted

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by unkated

Or having survived. Hmmm. You could have a unit formed of early survivors, mostly military, for relief duties, and then have things fall further apart, leaving the group on their own.

Say, a doctor or nurse with extra training (for medical centric tasks), an engineer (for infrastructure tasks), and N grunts for muscle & boots ('just hold this, and hand it to me when I ask; you two lift on my command') and security.

... And two weeks in, the team gets a radio message from CDC regional HQ "There is a mob outside trying to break in here, I guess for food or medicine, and I have only six troops left not in a ward. Damn, I can hear them breaking in. You're going to have to go to the next regional HQ and try to contact them. I'd say try Cleveland, but they've been offline for three days.

"Good Luck, your on your own." (how else would it start? )

On the plus side, infrastructure would at least exist, although it would probably run down or be turned off to avoid untended damage.

As a game, you would have an immediate chaotic period, but no definitive opposition. You'd have to jump ahead a bit to get an organized opposition bigger than a gang, IMHO.

Uncle Ted

And all the stuff for WWIII works for this scenario as well! Rebuild, survive, scout and salvage. Mobs and chaos damage enough that it's a challenge. If your using V2/2.2, you can adapt T2013's careers or use Dark Conspiracy and it's Booster Kit for civvies, drop EMP, and skip Cyborg, ET, Android careers.