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Old 03-10-2022, 06:50 PM
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Default 4e NATO Unit Location Differences from v1 and v2

Mapping out the changes in 4e and I figured I'd share them here. From the original T2k versions, the following NATO divisions were in Poland:

US
  • 5th ID
  • 8th ID (Mech)
  • 50th Armored
  • 2nd Marine

Germany
  • 6th Panzergrenadiers
  • 21st Panzergrenadiers
  • 29th Panzergrenadiers

In 4e, this has been changed to the following divisions in Poland (though who knows, maybe there's a lot more NATO units in Poland that simply aren't listed in the 4e Ref Manual...). These units from the old T2k versions are still listed as being in Poland:

US
  • 5th ID - Naturally.
  • 2nd Armored - 2nd Brigade was previously listed as being in Southern Germany.
  • 1st Cavalry - Was previously listed in Southern Germany.
Germany
  • 1st Panzer - Originally in Southern Germany
  • 7th Panzer - Originally in Central Germany
  • 11th Panzergrenadier - Originally in Central Germany

While these ones seem to be brand new to the NATO OrBat in Poland specifically for 4e:
US
  • 29th ID
  • 34th ID

Netherlands
  • I Dutch Corp - This one is really bizarre choice all around.

In Sweden, you see the following NATO divisions:
US
  • 2nd Marine - Originally in Northern Poland
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Old 03-10-2022, 09:04 PM
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The 34th ID probably replaces the 47th ID from 1e and 2e. In the real world, the 47th was redesignated as the 34th in 1991.

(This implies that in 4e continuity, the 47th is not assigned to internal security in the American northwest.)

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Old 03-10-2022, 11:52 PM
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Perhaps it could be replaced with the 23rd ID?
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Old 03-11-2022, 07:46 AM
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If there’s even a need to have a division operating out there. I don’t think the 4e canon says anything about a Soviet invasion of Alaska and British Columbia, nor does it mention New America. Those were the two driving factors in the 1e timeline for the 47th and 104th Infantry Divisions being where they were. As each edition is a different T2kU, there may be something completely different happening in the region in 4e… or Free League may choose to leave it a blank spot on the map for individual referees or fan content creators to fill in as they see fit.

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