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kato13 Destruction of Weapons. 12-15-2009, 10:30 AM

Abbott Shaull One thing to remember that... 12-15-2009, 11:10 AM

fightingflamingo I can not see NATO willingly... 12-15-2009, 12:11 PM

headquarters destruction 12-15-2009, 12:49 PM

copeab Would this include weapon... 12-15-2009, 12:09 PM

pmulcahy11b That's a good point. How... 12-15-2009, 02:42 PM

Legbreaker I tend to think any weapons... 12-15-2009, 04:02 PM

Raellus I think both sides would keep... 12-15-2009, 05:38 PM

StainlessSteelCynic During the Arab-Israeli war... 12-15-2009, 06:01 PM

jester Here is the question though.... 12-15-2009, 08:25 PM

Targan True. I suspect that T2K PCs... 12-16-2009, 12:33 AM

copeab To be fair, though, soldiers... 12-16-2009, 11:16 AM

Legbreaker This is true, however it's... 12-16-2009, 03:48 PM

copeab Before the nukes, probably... 12-16-2009, 04:21 PM

Legbreaker A lot of allied material....... 12-16-2009, 04:40 PM

Abbott Shaull With modern mobile warfare,... 12-17-2009, 08:01 AM

kato13 I am glad there are such... 12-17-2009, 08:14 AM

fightingflamingo originally intended to... 12-17-2009, 10:42 AM

Abbott Shaull If a shooting war started in... 12-17-2009, 10:48 AM

Raellus I just thought of another... 12-17-2009, 03:49 PM

Legbreaker Softskins, particularly cargo... 12-17-2009, 06:10 PM

kato13 Given it take something like... 12-17-2009, 06:35 PM

Legbreaker Ah, there's your problem!... 12-17-2009, 06:54 PM

kato13 Well there still will be... 12-17-2009, 07:04 PM

Legbreaker 10 to 1 might be a little... 12-17-2009, 07:25 PM

Abbott Shaull Well the Battalion of the... 12-17-2009, 08:22 PM

kato13 That 1000kg includes fuel,... 12-17-2009, 08:32 PM

fightingflamingo there will definately be some... 12-17-2009, 07:43 PM

Legbreaker This is a VERY good point and... 12-17-2009, 07:53 PM

copeab I have the 3e. It indeed... 12-17-2009, 07:58 PM

kato13 I do think they must be... 12-17-2009, 08:03 PM

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Abbott Shaull The Soviet Division was about... 12-17-2009, 08:47 PM

Webstral Dunnigan's assumptions may be... 12-20-2009, 10:35 PM

copeab No, he breaks down fuel and... 12-21-2009, 12:12 AM

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Legbreaker Absolutely true. Not all... 12-21-2009, 08:48 PM

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chico20854 As long as you didn't have to... 12-22-2009, 02:30 PM

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Well there still will be empty trucks.

Dunnigan's "How to make war" has US and Soviet Division needing similar tonnage (about a maximum 40% variance) of material. It is not 10 to one. For both it ends up being in the range of 2000 tons per day.

(OT Does anyone have the Third Edition of the above mentioned book. I think the US and Soviet divisions are flip flopped as it has the Sovs using more fuel and the US units using more ammo.
Figure 23-1 page 472.)

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